Deity Existence

[Jikanu]

i said that he was too powerful NOT to be able to lift the stone. he can make a stone of any size, but he's incapable of not picking it up v.v

i know a little bit about hinduism, i just havent studied it thoroughly.

[Aidan]

But the Bible states that God is all knowing and all powerful.

If you look up Genesis 18:14, Luke 18:27, Revelation 19:6, it states that god is all powerful.

If you look up Psalm 139:2-6 and Isaiah 40:13-14, it states that god is all knowing.

The fact that he didn't see the Tower of Babylon coming is just another contradiction in the Bible.

So therefore, if God can change his future mind, he is not all knowing, and if he cannot, he is not all powerful.

The bible has a lot of contradictions. Often enough people are too lazy to read it and understand it for themselves that they never see those *mistakes*.

As far as homosexuality goes, didn't really read through the past few posts, but homosexuality just goes against the natural law of reproduction. Male mates with female to make a baby, two men or two women can't make a baby without intense scientific breakthrough (And we still can't do it).

I suppose the violation of that natural law is the only thing that makes it a sin.

[Ralath]

As far as homosexuality goes, didn't really read through the past few posts, but homosexuality just goes against the natural law of reproduction. Male mates with female to make a baby, two men or two women can't make a baby without intense scientific breakthrough (And we still can't do it).

Infertile people can't make babies. Old people can't make babies. Doesn't change their relationships.

[Aidan]

Infertile people can't make babies. Old people can't make babies. Doesn't change their relationships.

Right. There's the exception to the rule. Of course, Humans only recently have been living into old age thanks to medicine, and infertile humans have only recently been accepted better. Older cultures used to sometimes even kill daughters and/or sons that were proven to be infertile.

That's the only justification I have as far as why homosexuality is a "sin". Bible just went by what they saw at the time. People died before 40, infertile people were usually shamed/killed/exiled. Nowadays things are different and thus perhaps the rule -could- be different. But society clings to that old way of life.

[Hraesvelg]

The bible has a lot of contradictions. Often enough people are too lazy to read it and understand it for themselves that they never see those *mistakes*.

As far as homosexuality goes, didn't really read through the past few posts, but homosexuality just goes against the natural law of reproduction. Male mates with female to make a baby, two men or two women can't make a baby without intense scientific breakthrough (And we still can't do it).

I suppose the violation of that natural law is the only thing that makes it a sin.

You do realize that there are quite a few documented case of homosexual behavior in animals, correct? So nature is now violating natural law?

[Jikanu]

Keep in mind, Hrae, that we too are nothing more than advanced animals.

[Aidan]

You do realize that there are quite a few documented case of homosexual behavior in animals, correct? So nature is now violating natural law?

Perhaps disorders might be an answer. Homosexuality could really be a disorder. People with feet fetishes have a psychological disorder that makes the brain think other people's genitals are on their feet.

Likewise, perhaps homosexuals just have the part of their brains either identifying themselves as male/female reversed (Males think they are females or females think they are males), or have their interpretations of other people reversed (they see males and females and females as males).

If a homosexual relationship isn't sexually-based though, there's no reason to call it a relationship then. It's just an advanced and close friendship. Just like straight couples.

[Hraesvelg]

Of course, that's the point I'm trying to make. Saying that nature violates natural law doesn't make sense, and I was prempting the rebuttal of "humans aren't animals, we're seperate", etc.

Edit: "Perhaps disorders might be an answer. Homosexuality could really be a disorder. People with feet fetishes have a psychological disorder that makes the brain think other people's genitals are on their feet."

Homosexuality has been removed from the DSM-IV for quite some time.

[Aidan]

Of course, that's the point I'm trying to make. Saying that nature violates natural law doesn't make sense, and I was prempting the rebuttal of "humans aren't animals, we're seperate", etc.

Edit: "Perhaps disorders might be an answer. Homosexuality could really be a disorder. People with feet fetishes have a psychological disorder that makes the brain think other people's genitals are on their feet."

Homosexuality has been removed from the DSM-IV for quite some time.

If it has been I wouldn't know. I'm just theorizing here.

[Vasu]

i said that he was too powerful NOT to be able to lift the stone. he can make a stone of any size, but he's incapable of not picking it up v.v

i know a little bit about hinduism, i just havent studied it thoroughly.

So he can't make a stone too heavy that he can't lift it, right?


So would you like for me to bring them up now?