My Opinion On How to Train a Cleric

[Flowersss]

clerics are stronger because they can heal.

[Ethelinde]

To assume that clerics will never need to fight is a major flaw in your thinking. What if you can't find a party to do the grinding for you, or if your guild is in a war and need additional firepower? Being a STR cleric I have more hp and defense compared to most other clerics at my level END build or not. I'm not saying all clerics should solo; I'm just stating the facts from my personal experience. I was a full END all the way till 55 doing nothing but healing, and that was the only thing I could do really, since having such low firepowers put me in serious disadvantage.

As I've also stated, unless you're simply too bad at collecting money or equipments that provide you with END, you are not going to have to ever invest in END. If your reason of investing in END is due to the supposed need to survive you're going the wrong direction, since if you rely on others to take the hits it's unlikely you will ever be in a situation where you few points of extra defense would be needed. Defense from added END is also wasteful as they only provide 0.5 defense per point as opposed to 1 full point of defense from simple greens.

From all my grinding/partying this is the result:

at around 55 my END cleric hit at most around 100 on red mobs, my STR cleric hit 240 (I'm using 55 since that's the highest my END cleric has gotten). With buff my END cleric had roughly 2.4k hp and 2.7k sp, my STR cleric had 2.3k hp & 2.6k hp (change in gears). My END cleric has about 540 defense without +9 equipments & my STR cleric had about 650.

As you can see gears are what's really making the difference for me, and I've spent less than 500s on all of them except for my hammer & shield.

I can't really say my block rate wins over the END cleric, but once again if you rely on healing others for exp, then you most likely won't be blocking much mobs anyway. Since others are the ones that take hits for you.

Going after the block rate is logical for fighters as they tank and make maximum use of the shield, but as a support cleric it's rather pointless. After all if you're at the point where those block rate meant life or death for you then you would really not have a purpose in pt (you're too busy healing yourself to mind others).

Imo if you're a careful cleric you would never draw aggro upon yourself via heal; from experience only crazy heal spamming (as crazy as spamming 1k+ heal on 200 damage) have even a chance to steal from mages.

[MaxOff]

well the world isn't perfect. And so we are.

I personally never level outside or parties, and i have no problem finding one too.
So i personaly cant draw any use out of str, dex, int and spr. So i power on end so that i can concentrate more on healing others in case i get attacked.

[booyah8876]

To assume that clerics will never need to fight is a major flaw in your thinking. What if you can't find a party to do the grinding for you, or if your guild is in a war and need additional firepower? Being a STR cleric I have more hp and defense compared to most other clerics at my level END build or not. I'm not saying all clerics should solo; I'm just stating the facts from my personal experience. I was a full END all the way till 55 doing nothing but healing, and that was the only thing I could do really, since having such low firepowers put me in serious disadvantage.

As I've also stated, unless you're simply too bad at collecting money or equipments that provide you with END, you are not going to have to ever invest in END. If your reason of investing in END is due to the supposed need to survive you're going the wrong direction, since if you rely on others to take the hits it's unlikely you will ever be in a situation where you few points of extra defense would be needed. Defense from added END is also wasteful as they only provide 0.5 defense per point as opposed to 1 full point of defense from simple greens.

From all my grinding/partying this is the result:

at around 55 my END cleric hit at most around 100 on red mobs, my STR cleric hit 240 (I'm using 55 since that's the highest my END cleric has gotten). With buff my END cleric had roughly 2.4k hp and 2.7k sp, my STR cleric had 2.3k hp & 2.6k hp (change in gears). My END cleric has about 540 defense without +9 equipments & my STR cleric had about 650.

As you can see gears are what's really making the difference for me, and I've spent less than 500s on all of them except for my hammer & shield.

I can't really say my block rate wins over the END cleric, but once again if you rely on healing others for exp, then you most likely won't be blocking much mobs anyway. Since others are the ones that take hits for you.

Going after the block rate is logical for fighters as they tank and make maximum use of the shield, but as a support cleric it's rather pointless. After all if you're at the point where those block rate meant life or death for you then you would really not have a purpose in pt (you're too busy healing yourself to mind others).

Imo if you're a careful cleric you would never draw aggro upon yourself via heal; from experience only crazy heal spamming (as crazy as spamming 1k+ heal on 200 damage) have even a chance to steal from mages.

1. I never said we never had to fight. I said that your build is from PvP viewpoint. I grind solo, and I don't care that I have to wait and do a little less dmg than the pure STR clerics. Besides, I always have a pt waiting for me.

2. If your gears boosted your DEF that much, then they must've been really high END, and for you to only spend 500s on those is amazing. Plus at max like +25 (or whatever the max is for lvl 55 gears) for all the gears, that would be +150 END... that's not +110 DEF, meaning either you were using DEF scroll, or those high END gears were +'d. The only thing I use + is my hammer... which will always be +9.

3. My perfect party is duo with a mage in 6x BG. I go for the block rate because mages are squishy... and even though they cast AoE spells, my rejuv, heal, restore, heal, etc... that's going to pull aggro to me... and I never heal myself in party unless it's an AoE and the tank has gone to grab mobs. When the size of the mob is like 30+ and they start to come at me, I'm healing the mage and using HP stones until the mage can kill them off me.

I have my build, and you have yours.

Mine has pros and cons, and so does yours

It's really all just a matter of opinion and how you like the game to run... there's really no "correct" build... other than NO INT FOR CLERICS xD!

But at least you're not someone that's going around talking generically about things

You've done your research, and you like the pure STR build a lot better ^^

I'm more of a lax guy, and yeah I love to deal dmg, which is why if I could be lvl 67 mage, I would change instantly... but I'm ok with being weak for the sake of keeping everyone else alive.



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my cleric is really stronge and it got 11spr and 17 end 15 str 3dex 1 int
it owneds lol

[booyah8876]

my cleric is really stronge and it got 11spr and 17 end 15 str 3dex 1 int
it owneds lol

That is the most random build I've ever seen in my life. And when you get to 30, you need to use a stat reset scroll to take that point out of INT. INT does NOTHING for any class other than mage!

;3

[tanis24]

well im and END/SPR build and i can solo fairly well.

[Spirit]

What it boils down to is How You Play. Everyone will play differently, that is why we can build our own character how we want to. I personally have gone 25 SPR, and now I am throwing everything into END. Once I reach 60, I will prolly start throwing points into something else, but for now, I like my build. I am a great party cleric and if needed I can solo.
I do not think their is truly one right build and one wrong build. It depends on how you play and what you want.

[Ownage]

Awesome then ><

My build is 25 SPR/Rest STR

[MikeyG]

I gotta agree with you on the End bit.