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Old 10-08-2007, 06:45 PM   #11
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You go ahead and sell them for 90c. But thats ripping everyone off not to mention the only people who will buy them that high are newbies who don't understand the economy just yet. First of all, materials are always free. If you buy them thats your problem but don't sell them for outrageous prices. When I sell Elrues I sell them for about 25c maybe even less because in all honesty they're worthless. The only thing they're good for is upgrading from +1-+3 so you can upgrade it higher. But even then Blessed/Lucky Elrues are easy as hell to find/acquire/etc so normal Elrues are pointless, in my opinion. The only thing these materials cost you is your time and even that has very little value.
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:15 PM   #12
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Decomposition of Dim dusts yields anywhere from 14-19 dusts. And these are easily acquired by drops or shops. The prices will range from 60-100c, and assuming you buy at 60c:

60c/19 = 3.158c per dust.

3.157*9 = 28.421c Elrue.

And therein lies your profit. Keep in mind the values I selected are absolutes.
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:57 PM   #13
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for your information, i DO sell my elure for 90c at Roumen and my Lix for 370c at Elderine in Teva server.

And I'll tell you that they DO get sold.

You can say that I'm ripping other people off, but if I sell it for any lower, I'm the one being ripped off. The materials are not essentially worthless as you have spent your time to get them. Once you get a old soul dust, you are theortically 3c richer as that's a garantee price you'll get from the NPC.

And if I can potentially sell dust for 10c each (which I have) then Elure are worth 90c as stated by others above. They should be happy already that I'm not charging them a crafting fee! XD

And I dont believe its ripping people off when they know very well how much they're paying for. Often other Elure that advertise for 35c are empty shops. I'm just playing at the low supply curve for a high price.
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Old 10-09-2007, 01:36 AM   #14
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You go ahead and sell them for 90c. But thats ripping everyone off not to mention the only people who will buy them that high are newbies who don't understand the economy just yet....
I beg to differ, actually. Hessah already stated most of the reasons.

It is lovely for someone to sell their items for a very cheap price, and I'd be the first to buy it, but I wouldn't do that myself. If my sole reasons for selling elrues was to make money, then I would definitely not sell them for anything before 50 coppers. Why? I can sell the materials to npc and make more money out of it that way, so I don't see why I would do that.

I reckon the actual problem is underpriced things, especially with the elrues. In CB, it was fine. People sold Elrues for at least 100c back in those days, making that particular production skill actually worth getting. But now, people selling them for such low prices made me stop levelling that production skill. It doesn't feel special, if you know what I mean. I know making elrues are supposed to be for enhancing, but we all know that half of us makes them to make money. However, if everyone's selling them for such low prices, I don't see what's so special about the production skill. I had lost interest in that skill ever since people underpricing elrues.

Also, some prices may be a "rip-off", but I wouldn't say that we rip them off if they choose to buy it. We aren't there to lie to them that the stone is worth 90 coppers and persuade them to get it. Some people may just have a lot of money to spare, thus they buy the 90c elrues. It is their choice to spend their money, and it will just only be our problem if the items don't get sold.

Furthermore, if everyone goes selling their elrues for 25 coppers, there will be someone out there who will think "oh, everyone is selling them for 25 coppers, I'll sell mine for 10 coppers so it gets sold quickly!" Isn't that the reason why half the people sell things for that cheap? It's so that they are cheaper than other people, and everyone would buy their items first.

All in all, I don't think it's a crime to sell elrues for 90-100 coppers. If someone out there is willing to buy it, let them be. I don't think a newbie out there who have very little experience in the economy will be ripped off by them anyway, since they probably wouldn't even have the money and you get a heap of dusts when you train at low levels, thus they can make it themselves anyway.
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Old 10-09-2007, 05:25 AM   #15
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I dunno. I just like buying them at 35c then selling them at 50 - 70c. But I was surprised to see an upgrading material being sold at 30 - 40c when I first started.
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hehe.. i guess i just dont want to pass on the profits to other people... i want all the profits to myself.. hence pricing them at my high margin.. keke
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Ahh I see.. Seems like even 60c people dun wanna buy elrunes.. I guess you'll know that there's always a 40c selling lurking around. How do you manage to sell your elrunes at 90c each?
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I actually hvnt been selling Elures for a week or two now.. (been converting them to lix instead)

but i set up a shop in Roumen at the stairs... and they get sold when i'm at work (9-5pm Sydney Time) which I believe is about 6pm-midnight ish in America, which is their prime time for playing ^^

I dont really sell much during my sleeping hrs, as i figured that's work hrs / school hrs in America...
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yeah there we go
lixes go for 300c 100%...why the fuck do people mess with elrues ?
it's pointless, doesnt make cash and wastes time. + it's easy to reach 300 or even 200 whatever it was.
If you pick this production skill...i reccomend enchanting lvl 1 stuff to +3
like all your armor, weps etc !
and make lots of them, dont buy mats then thought lol ^^

anyways: a dude who has sold me dusts has earned 11s by now. because he had lots of them :P
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i use to sell my Elure coz i was running out of room in storage... (even with 4 characters i'm still out of space...)

imagine having 300 elures in ur storage.. that 30 boxes... thats 1/4 of ur storage....

that's why.....
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