Valentines Update...

[rokaraged]

http://outspark.com/forums/showthrea...696#post370696

Is it just me or do you actually need to buy cash shop items to go anywhere in this game.

The experience increase cards are on a length duration. 30, or 7 days of increased experience rates. It seems like the cash shop users will plow ahead leaving those who do not purchase cash shop items frequently, behind.

Also the HP/SP increase and hunters war rant for a period of 7 or 30 days seems a little unfair. Its almost like buying permanent upgrades to your character...

I pointed out this idea a long time ago..

Its just becoming more obvious with each update..

[Hessah]

i dont see anything wrong with the cash shop items...

u can still happily play the game without them... (well.. minus all the bugs and wat-not they've got but that's another story)

they've got PvP ground and GM events and new maps and fixed quest blah blah blah.... that everyone could still benefit without the CS items...

if you compare the stats of a CS player and one that doesnt have CS items.. there'll be difference... but it doesnt affect ur party status or anything... (like u can still party together and its not like the non-CS user cant do anything)

but hey life's never fair... it's not like those ppl got it for free anyway... so i dont really see any problems...

[AngellicDiety]

i dont see anything wrong with the cash shop items...

u can still happily play the game without them... (well.. minus all the bugs and wat-not they've got but that's another story)

they've got PvP ground and GM events and new maps and fixed quest blah blah blah.... that everyone could still benefit without the CS items...

if you compare the stats of a CS player and one that doesnt have CS items.. there'll be difference... but it doesnt affect ur party status or anything... (like u can still party together and its not like the non-CS user cant do anything)

but hey life's never fair... it's not like those ppl got it for free anyway... so i dont really see any problems...

I see you've been no victim to the ability discrimination now.

Mages see this frequently, the ones who have inferno are accepted, and the ones without become second choice. The ones without even Frost Nova are pooled together as "rejects."

Its a harsh look at it, but thats how mages are treated in the game at this very moment.

Now lets take a look at everyone. If someone knows you have full [+9] body armour they are more likely to party you over someone the same class, same build, same skill empowerments, and same ability overall.

Taking a look even further, you will eventually see those who wont take a fighter who has no extenders on. The same can be applied to all the other classes as well.

Partying with people you know wont change with the cash shop. But the sad part is when you begin inviting outsiders in, or others begin inviting you out of the blue - you get some interesting problems.

You see the difference between a very short time-limited consumable and a long-term consumable is that a short term one is understood by most people as un-neccessary due to the fact that it has such a short life-span.

But with this month-long duration, the understanding about the cash shop buffs change. Instead of hearing "Did you use an extender?", you will hear "Don't you have an extender?." Simple words change the tone or the implied message.

[Hessah]

0.o

OK then....

I guess i dont party with outsiders... so i dont know those dilemmas... most of my guildies doesnt use cash shop items (in fact.. only 3 or 4 of us does)... the tankers can still tank, the archers can still do dmg, mage can still AOE, clerics can still heal well without deaths...

we dont NEED cash shop to enjoy the game... we're still great as a party and have fun...

an just coz those items are available in CS, doesnt mean everyone will buy it! as u can see.. not EVERYONE has a +9 just coz it's possible.. most people dont want it or cant hv it... just because i charge up sparkcash doesnt mean i will HAVE or WANT the extenders...

how many ppl do u know have full +9 armours?? i only know 1 possible person on the entire Teva... (well maybe a few more much higher lvl ppl but it still doesnt mean a majority of the ppl have full +9 set)




but in the end.. i guess it's who u play with and wat u look for in a game... i'm happy to party with non-cash players as long as they're nice... i guess different players hv different priorities...

[Spirit]

I second what Hess says. It depends on the party you are with. We are usually only partied with guild members and it doesn't matter what level, what CS items, what class, what....ever. We play together because we enjoy it.
It all depends on who you play with, why you play with them, and how you play.
I am a cash shop user. The rest of my guildies do not hold it against me just because when I die I dont lose exp, thanks to my Blessing of Teva. They don't hold my cash shop enhance weapons against me. They dont hold my riders against me. And I dont hold it against them simply because they cannot use cash shop items. I would party with them even if they were a level 5. Haha, ask toolrocket, .
It just depends on your outlook on the game. And the outlook of the people you are lucky enough or unlucky enough to meet in the game and on the forums.

[Hessah]

Spirit has Blessing of Teva?

-lets spirit dies 1st- oh well! XD jkjk

[Lady-Loki]

Spirit has Blessing of Teva?

-lets spirit dies 1st- oh well! XD jkjk

LOL! You say that as a joke but I will tell you that many times Spirit is on the phone with me and when we get mobbed or trained she is yelling "Keep <enter whoever> alive if I die I die! Keep them alive".

She has her blessing of Teva but she also uses it to free me up to heal others.

As for the OP, CS has only been open about 3 months. Many of us played and enjoyed the game before CS, and even then there was a very large span of levels in the game. There were people already capped and they had NO access to CS items.

And before CS opened it was the same in regards to who wants to party with whom. I have been invited to party in KQ almost immediately on my cleric while my poor archer has gone an entire KQ (at same level mind you) with NO party at all. This disparity of treatment will be in just about any game regardless of p2p or not.

[Ditto Was Here]

I personally do not buy CS items. I just say, "how nerdy can ya get?" and move on with my life. If you buy stuff for a game on computer = NERD