Same Gender Marriages in MMOs

**Hessah** · 12-07-2007, 09:20 AM

i cant believe in this day and age there are still so many ppl against same-esx marriage... though i know my parents are pretty closed mind on this subject... hopefully wat's seem to be "socially acceptable" will change in the next generation...

but i agree with Hyper's point of view... these companies would rather be safe than sorry... Not sure which Asian country you're referring to... but if its China, Companies > citizens, so I'm sure they're not worried (though i'm surprised that asians are more "opened minded" than Westeners)

Again... ppl talk about "morals" si that's like... saying same-sex couples are doing something "wrong"... well i really wanna hear wat's "wrong" with it... they give each other trust, love, support... all positive.. wat's "wrong"...? I really cant get into the mind of those people...

rokaraged · 12-07-2007, 06:29 PM

I could probably never understand the urges to be homosexual....and probably never be it, but personally I really don't care over the topic of homosexuality or not. Its a rather sensitive subject but I perfer to be neutral over it as I feel conflicted But i hold no ill will to whoever is homosexual.

From what I see here though there are 2 sides to this issue,
1. Pro-homosexuality side that defines their marriage as their diserved right
2. Anti Homosexuality side that sees homosexual marriage as something completely immoral

I think these 2 sides really don't understand each other.
Heterosexuality has been the basis for much of the world since the start of man. There have been some pro-homosexual aspects of certain parts of communites in places such as Japan or greece but the world has been mostly majority Heterosexual....if not murderering the homosexuals like the Romans...

Now i'm not saying heterosexuality is evil or homosexuality is completely wrong but as history proves... old traditions and old rules die HARD as we can see the conflict today. The anit homosexuality side views homosexuality as an offense not only to thier own morality, but also agianst the traditions of their respective religion and culture. BUT for places such as America where there is a LARGE merger of varying cultures with varying views, the large conflict over this issue was inevitable.

This Is America with its own distinctive culture that was created off the influence of other cultures. But the problem is, from the old cultures came old religions, traditions, and feelings of morality that control us to this day. Even when there is scientific theories or discoveries of how people might have had no control over thier own sexuality, people will still follow thier traditions more. As we try to create a new America as a new generation we must sometimes forsake the past decisions or traditions.

Understand i'm not attacking older cultures, but stating the influence they have over this subject.

**O-mie** · 12-07-2007, 06:45 PM

It also depends what part of america you're talking about. I am from the west coast and have never felt that attitude from people, well I mean sure there are some cases with reilgious extremist folks or whatever, but besides that its a pretty generally accepted thing here. I know its obviously not going to be the case in like, the bible belt of america or something, but even so...~

**Lilian** · 12-07-2007, 06:51 PM

also, this topic has been steered offcourse by alot by now.

The point here is about a feature in a game. this feature is not even called marriage, it is establishing a relationship with another person. you can have three kinds: Friendship, Teacher/Pupil and Lovers.

When you go to the npc that explains the details about these relationships and how they affect the players, giving them benefits etc, nowhere is it implied that it should be male+female only.

So, it's NOT marriage. you can keep your precious ceremonies in your holy churches if that's what the fuss is about. It is about loving the other person, and the game is basically denying/ignoring the possibility of homosexual people existing.

You may say, "why do you care so much, it's only a game. make a male char if you want to marry a female." Well to that, I say back to you, why do YOU care so much about whether 2 female characters in a game are "lovers" as deemed by the game's own system.

**O-mie** · 12-07-2007, 06:53 PM

@lil
Well said

Meteo · 12-07-2007, 08:11 PM

• Stats based on "Friendship", "teacher & pupil" and "lover" relationships?
Very cool ideas, a creative way to spice up a game.

• Restricting these relationships based on gender? A very ignorant thing to do.

• This kind of thinking antiquated, parallel to an adult telling another adult "I hit you because I love you..."

Just my opinion, who knows..

MagesRequiem · 12-07-2007, 11:46 PM

What game was that? Anyways, i'm cool with same sex marriages but men playing women or vice versa, i'm completely against. The only reason people are against same sex marriages is because they're afraid of what they don't understand. So they come up with stupid shit that usually involves religion like "God hates fags and if they marry its spitting in Gods face!". You know? Stupid crud like that.

rokaraged · 12-07-2007, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by O-mie

It also depends what part of america you're talking about. I am from the west coast and have never felt that attitude from people, well I mean sure there are some cases with reilgious extremist folks or whatever, but besides that its a pretty generally accepted thing here. I know its obviously not going to be the case in like, the bible belt of america or something, but even so...~

Good point, hence the varying different parts of america that have also been affected by varying cultures. (IE Hispanic in the south and california, Irish is the Midwest)
Hence America is so divided in many ways.

Kinda funny I recall an issue so fiercely debated like this that it led to the slaugther of 10% of all American males in the 19th century >.>;;;;;;;;;;;

kosherkid · 12-09-2007, 05:33 PM

Yeah I dont get why they dont have same-sex marriages in games...

Every gay person I've talked to has told me they were born that way... so how can we punish them for being born that way? I mean we dont punish people for being born black or asian, but we punish people for being gay? Kinda hypocritical.

**Triumph** · 12-10-2007, 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by kosherkid

Yeah I dont get why they dont have same-sex marriages in games...

Every gay person I've talked to has told me they were born that way... so how can we punish them for being born that way? I mean we dont punish people for being born black or asian, but we punish people for being gay? Kinda hypocritical.

Someone I know said that he became gay after some event occurred, or he simply became that way. *shrug*

In any event, it's a controversial issue, as there was a recent report of a lesbian couple unable to divorce, since the state law in Rhode Island defines marriage as "a union between a man and a woman."