Learn before you judge.

[Spirit]

I have not insulted you. Calm down. I am merely repeating what YOU have said in THIS thread. And make fun of my typos, so what. I could point out about 100 you have made in this thread.

In the post above my last one you admitted that you were not intelligent and that you did not have superior knowledge. Further on up you admitted that most of the time you are posting on this forum you are high. I am just asking if you think maybe the two go hand in hand.

All part of the great debate on how pot does/does not affect your thinking.

I used your own words against you. Words that you said about yourself and you get pissy. If you want to bring it up, prepare to back it up.


And I do not have to insult you. You are doing that yourself. You just don't see it.

[lamchopz]

I think I'd come down fairly in the middle.


I do believe the use of marjiuana is fairly demonized by most all media and official government. Misuse, and not the substance itself lies at the core of what is a dividing issue. Our other legal 'drugs' such as caffeine, nicotine, alcohol (and for some prescription/over-the-counter medicine) as such are also 'fairly' chemically-addictive and/or psychologically but legal never the less. There are people who would benefit from its medical-use, people who would otherwise suffer needlessly.


But there's also the other side, that beneath the rational reasoning that it shouldn't be as bad as it's made out to be, there are the negative consequences and outcomes. People who object to usage of marijuana would have no ground on which to object if there weren't some real horror-stories. People do start marijuana as a first-step kind of drug which leads to harder ones which I think most of us can agree aren't quite so pleasant. People do learn to become dependent and not everyone handles it in quite the same way.

lrva and I share the same thought.

It's down to the individuals. The laws were designed to protect the whole community. They're not always perfect but that's what a democracy is for. The laws do change with time, in fact.

As of now, people constantly abuse drugs, e.g. marijuana, so it's fair to criminalise its use.

Then again, you wonder why alcohol is legal while the trail of social and personal devastation it cases is more or less similar to pot, comparatively speaking.

[MikeyG]

First off, I've never seen the reason I've gotten infractions either
so can you see how maybe you could have insulted me without realizing?
Second off I never fucking stood there and said that I am un-intelligent. If i was I dont think I could even be typing to you. I said and meant I am not all knowing, I do not have vast information on many subjects like someone like hrae, as I'm still young and havent learned everything ofcourse.

Yeah Im baked right now and still see the fuckin bullshit your pumping out.
Comon spirit you know your just loving the chance to insult me.

Two and two go in hand?

Take an already stupid person and give them weed, there already fuckin dumb and weed didnt cause it ( and no im not talking about myself )

Just like if you take a person whos lazy and doesnt wanna get a job
give em pot, its not weed thats making them like that, there gunna be lazy anyways. And im not making fun of any fuckin grammar except when im being insulted and I cant understand whats being said to me.

And yet you sit here and pick out my small flaws instead of seeing the big picture.

[Spirit]

You just said it all right there Mikey. Number 1 by totally NOT getting what I was saying.

It was a Serious question. I think a lot of people have put in their posts how pot affect our thought process.

Take it as an insult if you want.

Or you could have turned it into a great debate. But, meh, why think about it, when get pissed is so much easier.

Do you know why Hrae can actually debate this topic better than you?

Has nothing to do with age or knowledge.

He actually takes the time to read the posts and thinks about what is being said and looks at multiple views. Then he actually thinks about what he types in response. He does not jump into anger-mode and go off in a rage.

He and I do not always share the same views, but at least I can debate with him. And neither of us go off the handle.


Enjoy Mikey.

Think what you want, I was trying to give you a debatable topic, but hell you are just proving my point.

[Blaaaaaaaah]

Please, keep a debate going or do not post. It is going off topic.

[MikeyG]

Ofcourse he can, Im not here to debate, hence why this
was not posted in mature discussions.

And all that was posted in here i never freaked out and
got "pissy" at other then the one where I'm being insulted.

And theres no need to sit there and tell me hrae can debate this
topic better then me because ofcourse I already understand that.

If i was to sit and read what you said over and over and thought
about it I still cant turn that into a great debate because its just stupid.
You, as alot of people have the image of, think stoners are braindead and just like the idiots that are put into movies.

You like apple computers? Created by a stoner. Cnn? again stoners, comon, you just keep edging me on to and you know it with your " your just proving my point". What the fuck do you think im gunna say to that shit?

And blaaahs im pretty sure whats goin on still has to do with the subject, but again theres a reason I did not post this in mature discussions and I never asked it be mvoed there so why was it?


edit: an arguement with you is one I cannot win
therefore if you have only something to say back to me there is no point.

[Blaaaaaaaah]

And blaaahs im pretty sure whats goin on still has to do with the subject, but again theres a reason I did not post this in mature discussions and I never asked it be mvoed there so why was it?

It was not staying on topic because it went on about how to debate and who would debate better rather than about marijuana.

We moved it because we figured this thread will go in a better direction if it had been posted in Mature Discussions. It had turned into a nice debate about whether marijuana should be legalized or not as well as touching on the topic about the effects of it (which is what your OP was about).

Had it been left in MoS, the posts may not have turned out so pretty and we would have closed it and there goes your effort.

However if you'd like, I'll move it back to MoS as per OP's request. Though if anything "bad" starts, we won't be trying to put the flames down like we do here because we hope for a good discussion in MD, but not in MoS.

Also, don't double post. You've done it twice in this thread already and you know you can't double post here.

[MikeyG]

Keep it here as theres still people would I guess could debate it.
Though people keep seeming to miss my point of posting. ( glad some people dont have their heads in their asses and see why though )

As for double posting yeah I've been a naughty boy.

It's a shame that most people won't look at the subject with an open mind.

As we saw.

[Hyper]

It benefits the people who DON'T smoke weed or use marijuana or whatever (can't watch video, so answer is just based on comments).

I don't know about other people, but personally, I would not like to be around people who are high or "relaxed." It scares the sh-t out of me. Even if you argue that you're "in control", how would a bystander know? It even freaks me out seeing people walk around drunk or attempting to drive a car. Call me sheltered or whatever, it's just that I don't want to face these kind of risky situations and I'd rather stay on the safe side. Even if I'm not doing these kind of things, other people who ARE still affect ME.

So if it's illegal, it will most likely dissuade people from trying out weed and marijuana. If there's less people who do weird stuff, then there's less of a chance that they will affect innocent people right? ;/

I also agree.

Plus it just annoys me when people act like complete idiots.