Learn before you judge.

**MikeyG** · 01-26-2009, 02:25 AM

Is there something thats not understandable?

**MikeyG** · 01-26-2009, 02:35 AM

Long video but if your just glancing or skimming watch from 30-35

**MikeyG** · 01-26-2009, 02:46 AM

And 45 minutes is my personal favorite.

**Hraesvelg** · 01-26-2009, 03:31 AM

"Let's nerf the world..." - Joe Rogan, from that film. Brilliant. It's a shame that most people won't look at the subject with an open mind. The governments are rather good at pushing the propaganda. I think we'll eventually get around to legalizing it.

**MikeyG** · 01-26-2009, 03:34 AM

I was just waiting for you to see it hrae, I know
its long but I suggest you watch the WHOLE video because
it is truely mind opening. Especially when they interview a man
with multiple scirosis ( bad spelling ) who smokes pot.

This video should make ANY person who sees
marijuana as a bad thing see it in a new light.

But as they said in the video hrae I wouldnt like
pot legalized only decriminilized. If its legalized I cant buy dope
anymore, It gets taxed and is expensive.

**MikeyG** · 01-26-2009, 03:37 AM

Also Hrae I already know your eyes arnt shut, and your
pretty smart and open to the ideas.. I really want someone like Loki or
Liz or the people that think its like the " devil grass " to watch it and
change there views. Because when they interview the randoms on the street
i was honestly disgusted at what people thought about pot and users.

**Yosei** · 01-26-2009, 04:10 AM

Before I post, I'll say yes I'm watching it, I'm at 17:21.

The reasons I am against doing drugs, and yes, I do consider marijuana a drug, is because:

1. Its illegal. So what if people want it legal? Obviously the government isn't changing their mind anytime soon. If its illegal... its illegal. Its just a plant, a plant that does effect people in idiotic ways. Go smoke an apple, go smoke a cigarette. Why would you want to risk getting arrested for something so little?

If your record is screwed up and you can't get a job because you wanted to get high... well good for you.

2. What I've experienced.

I am not a sheltered little girl whose going by the media.

I lived in a city where drugs were a common thing. I could tell anyone where they could get drugs, even as someone whose never done them.

I have friends who started with marijuana and got inspired to try new things. Why? Because they got high from it, and they wanted to see how the others would make them feel. Some stuck with pot, some did a number of things. But they all had the same retarded traits that I see in most potheads I've met. No, it probably isn't permanent, no it probably isn't going to physically harm them, but it does make them idiotic in many ways.

My sister smoked pot all throughout her teens to the time she went to prison (shes 28 now). Her house often reeked of it. And yes, she got into other drugs, such as acid, heroin, and crack. Yes, she got addicted. Yes... she screwed up my life, hers, and our families. She's almost gotten killed 3 times over this stuff. She's tried to convince me to go buy stuff for her from dealers she owed. She neglected her children and lost them. I've had people tell me that it takes moderation, she got addicted, there are ways to not get addicted, but who the hell does drugs to get addicted? No one.

My point being is that it is not worth it in the long run and with the risks that come with it.

Trying it or doing it once in a blue moon is fine by me, or for medical purposes, okay, but if you're smoking it like you drink your coffee or its almost the only way you can enjoy yourself and have a good time... thats different. I am the same with alcohol before anyone starts thinking I'm being judgemental towards just marijuana.

I do not need a chemical or something illegal to relax or have a good time.

**Hraesvelg** · 01-26-2009, 04:19 AM

Originally Posted by Yosei

Before I post, I'll say yes I'm watching it, I'm at 17:21.

The reasons I am against doing drugs, and yes, I do consider marijuana a drug, is because:

1. Its illegal. So what if people want it legal? Obviously the government isn't changing their mind anytime soon. If its illegal... its illegal. Its just a plant, a plant that does effect people in idiotic ways. Go smoke an apple, go smoke a cigarette. Why would you want to risk getting arrested for something so little?

If your record is screwed up and you can't get a job because you wanted to get high... well good for you.

That's a fine bit of circular logic. The law should be obeyed just because it is the law? The law can't be wrong or unjust? If everyone held that view, we'd still have alcohol prohibition, we would still own slaves, and women wouldn't be allowed to vote.

"So what if people want it legal?" In a republic, the will of the people should be expressed by their representatives. Granted, this doesn't always happen, but if enough people are educated about the topic the debate can continue on. That's one of the big problems these days...the debate doesn't happen. Everyone just takes the word of an authority figure without doing their own research.

As for your sister, I sympathize with your situation. The root cause of her problems, however, aren't due to using weed or other drugs, but the misuse of them. I've known people who have done terrible things due to addition to gambling, alcohol, sex, drugs, hell, even video games. This is a problem because some people are more prone to addictive behavior. People that do responsibly use shouldn't be punished because some people aren't able to.

**MikeyG** · 01-26-2009, 04:20 AM

Not a sheltered girl, but has clouded eyes.

Quote:

If your record is screwed up and you can't get a job because you wanted to get high... well good for you.

Watch further and look at the people who smoke pot, people in positions of power.
My mother smokes pot and makes 140k a year and has a record.

Smoking a ciggarete is nothing like smoking a joint, and since you have
not smoked weed before your in no position to judge there.
Weed lifts my spirits, relaxs me, and has little different effects in others and is a COMPLETELY different effect then smoking a smoke. And as for an apple thats just stupidity.

And as for the risks you talk about with your sister?
Thats obviously her personality, thats a personal fuckin choice to go smoke jib or crack. Everyone makes there own choice pot doesnt choose for you.

Great quote from that movie something like alcholhal is my drug of choice, can we say it started from me drinking milk as a kid?

All in all I appreciate the fact that your watching the movie yosei and expanding your views on weed.

And I smoke weed everyday, almost all day but I do
not need it either to enjoy myself, though I prefer smoking it.

Its like saying do you need video games or the computer to enjoy yourself? or do you need a massage to relax?