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Old 01-22-2009, 02:46 PM   #1
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contradiction in the wiki

I was searching information on chances to refine items, and bonus of bless/lucky stones.

I found two pages which don't says the same thing, which is right?
http://www.fiestafan.com/wiki/Enhancement_Stones
http://www.fiestafan.com/wiki/Enhancement_Guide

ps: 15% for elrue[1] seems inacurate because i usually enchant 4 tier1 item to +3 with 20elrue1 only. (i play on bijou)
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Old 01-22-2009, 05:30 PM   #2
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the Enhancement Stones page data is taken straight from the game files. That is the true numbers.

Enhancement Guide is done as a way to explain how to Enhance and not to tell about the stones. The Stone page is done to tell about the stones and not Enhancements. These are done this way so you can find what your looking for without have to hassle with more information then you need.

But I know, cause I was the one that did it, that the Stones pages is completely correct.
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Old 01-22-2009, 08:32 PM   #3
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Old 01-22-2009, 09:22 PM   #4
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Thanks Triumph, I just have not had the time to change that little bit.
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Old 01-23-2009, 08:02 AM   #5
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OK so bless stone increases success only by 2%.

Another thing in Enhancement_Stones:
"Examples of this: You have a +2 Weapon and using a lucky stone on it to try to enhance. There will be a 17% chance you will enhance the item to +3. If you are successful at enhancing the item then you will have a 35% chance of getting the weapon to +4 instead of +3"

But lucky elrue[1] which is the more succesful has only 13%.
The 17% is a mistake between lucky and bless or there is a mechanism that i missed?
Thx for your work! Wiki help me a lot.
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Originally Posted by morkian33 View Post
OK so bless stone increases success only by 2%.

Another thing in Enhancement_Stones:
"Examples of this: You have a +2 Weapon and using a lucky stone on it to try to enhance. There will be a 17% chance you will enhance the item to +3. If you are successful at enhancing the item then you will have a 35% chance of getting the weapon to +4 instead of +3"

But lucky elrue[1] which is the more succesful has only 13%.
The 17% is a mistake between lucky and bless or there is a mechanism that i missed?
Thx for your work! Wiki help me a lot.
Blessed Elrue[1] increases success rate by 17%, the Lucky Elrue[1] counterpart increases it by 13%. And if you use Lucky Elrue[1], 35% of the successes raise enhancement by 2 levels.

I find the "Lucky Sucess Rate" misleading - what about the inherent rate of success? Currently, the probability listed is just P(lucky stone's contribution to success) * P(getting lucky when successful). However, there's also P(inherent probability of success) * P(getting lucky when successful).
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