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Old 09-04-2008, 06:37 PM   #1
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Originally Posted by Ralath View Post
A balanced budget, for one. Economic growth, for another. And no, believe it or not, it was not solely due to the Republican's control in Congress. Otherwise, common sense would dictate that a Republican Congress+a Republican president would have left us off in better conditions than we are now...?
I liked Clinton
yeah the US's economy was up during his presidency
so he had an affair
It is the society that is making it such a big deal, other countries may just ignore it.
Also, this hasn't been the first time. There have been quite a few presidents in the past who had affairs. An example would be FDR. It was known that he had an affair with his secretary, so much that when he died his wife didn't even bother, and yet he is still remembered as one of the greatest presidents in the history of the US (He is ranked up there with Washington and Lincoln due to his contributions for pulling the US out of Great Depression).
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Old 09-04-2008, 08:14 PM   #2
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Dam straight goverment is messed up...Barack the vote!!!!
Barack won't change anything. He thinks Iran is a problem. He wants to cut taxes but wants to increase spending ( Universal Health Care isn't free people) That would actually involve taxing you MORE than you already are ( You could expect to lose between 30%-50% of your paycheck if we get Universal Health care). He wants the government to take care of more and more people which means higher taxes to pay for the new programs.

YAY Socialism! Please take more of my money! I'm not using it for anything important like my own well being and happiness! Take it off my hands because other wise I might not use it for the "common good"!
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Old 09-04-2008, 08:23 PM   #3
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Whom do you suggest we vote for, sec?
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Whom do you suggest we vote for, sec?
I don't go around telling people who to vote for. If you support a candidate's positions, then you should vote for him. If you support Barack's ideas, then vote for him. McCain, then vote for him. I am voting for neither. Even though my candidate will not win, I'd rather vote for someone I fully support then vote for someone just because they have a chance at winning. I look towards the independents because I know where they stand. The republicans and democrats only care about hugging the middle in order to gain the most votes. They have no real ideas or solutions. They just say want everyone wants to hear so they can get more votes than the other party.

I've been asked by many people, "Why are you throwing your vote away?" Frankly, I think that if you vote for someone who you don't really know/support but who you know has a possibility of winning or if you vote along party lines without actually thinking and judging for yourself, then it is you who throw your vote away.
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Old 08-15-2008, 03:55 AM   #5
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^LOL. Inside job. xDDD

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We can't necessarily say its "Bush" who does it. But maybe people under him. No offense to Bush.. but compared to other presidents.. he isn't exactly the most intelligent guy. Or he doesn't look like it.. I mean, if he'll let his speech-maker dudes have him use "democrinization" as a word, and not notice that it isn't a word or think "F that" and try to fix it, I don't feel comfortable.
I dunno, I like having a man that can't pronounce half the words he says correctly represent me to everyone else around the world!
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Old 08-15-2008, 03:56 AM   #6
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/shrug.

It was.
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Who then actually flew the planes into the buildings? Government employees? Or were the pilots very, very unhappy?

Lawl, next the US government plans to nuke all major cities? Or maybe they'll spray crops with lethal chemicals?
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Old 08-15-2008, 04:02 AM   #8
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Sigh. Are you one of those people who will at first refuse to watch things like Loose Change? Then finally give in, watch it, and still deny that its true? Because if you are, then theres no point in discussing this with you.
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I've watch part of it, but I don't buy it. I feel sorry for the people that really fear that their 1st-world government would do something like that.

-moves to Switzerland-

Apparently the guy who made it said it was fictional.
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