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03-06-2008, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by +Tequila+
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Yea what he did was dumb, but think of what hes been through?
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Yes, it was dumb. But like you said:
Originally Posted by Tequila
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No matter what a person does you shouldn't wish they die.
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Then no matter what that soldier has been through, that does not give him the right to chuck away a puppy like that.
I am speechless about that video.
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03-06-2008, 10:32 PM
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:w
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I wonder if his family has seen this...
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03-06-2008, 10:50 PM
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I'll play devil's advocate.
It was immoral to throw a puppy like that, I'll agree.
But if you don't realize that war does things to people...I'll say it right now. It does. Including back home in the states.
I've lost two friends to the war, and a third is suffering from PTSD.
Maybe he's seen things that you probably can't even dream of. Don't wish a serviceman bodily harm until you determine the cause behind it. If he's just cruel, that's understandable...but seeing a buddy blown to bits by an IED would probably rattle you a bit too.
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03-06-2008, 11:06 PM
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So because you have witnessed evils that no man should ever witness, it is right to behave that way? It is excusable? We are supposed to say, "oh that's okay, he has watched his friends get killed?"
One of my friends has a son in Iraq right now, he called hom e a few months ago bawling his eyes out, because in a raid, they were clearing an alleyway, and hi troop opened fire. A little girl around 6 or 7, broke free from her mother's arms and ran towards him. He could not stop shooting in time and killed her. He now has to live with that the rest of his life. Do you think he reacted by grabbing a puppy and throwing it off a cliff? People handle things in different ways. Depending on how you handle each thing, makes you the person that you are.
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03-06-2008, 11:27 PM
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Does he honestly look like he has any condition or PTSD? He doesn't look at all sad or remorseful about losing comrades.
He's like that army guy in Iraq who raped a girl and killed her family/burnt their house down.
He isn't there to "protect his country" (that term is BS anyway). He's there to bullshit around instead of growing up. A partygoer. Or he just wants to kill foreigners.
(Note: I don't think that there are more than 20-50 people in the army who are like him. I don't think they are all like that, and it's not like any of them want to/should be there. I just think he's a lazy bastard who should be dishonorably discharged. Yes, psychiactric help would be nice.)
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03-06-2008, 11:32 PM
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If I had seen people getting killed, I'd be snuggling that puppy <.<
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03-06-2008, 11:42 PM
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Okay, here's a nice comparison.
Take a Doctor or surgeon for example. These people have to slowly cut open people, crack open sternums and wriggle their fingers and various utensils around in squiggling organs. Often times, people die on their watch, or patients are rolled in who look like they have been put in a blender or something. It takes a certain ability to be impartial, a level calm coldness to be able to do their job, the same as a soldier must.
A soldier must be able to know when to take a life and when to preserve one, and as with soldiers too, people will unexpectedly die, and they will have to live with this. However, you don't see the average soldier or doctor going around chucking live animals around.
Any soldier who cannot deal with these types of things - though harsh they may be- even if they're in their peak physical conditions, they are not fit for war, and should be discharged. Mental instabilities, like the one shown in the video, are only problem causers and never do anybody any good.
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03-07-2008, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by hyperswoss
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Does he honestly look like he has any condition or PTSD? He doesn't look at all sad or remorseful about losing comrades.
He's like that army guy in Iraq who raped a girl and killed her family/burnt their house down.
He isn't there to "protect his country" (that term is BS anyway). He's there to bullshit around instead of growing up. A partygoer. Or he just wants to kill foreigners.
(Note: I don't think that there are more than 20-50 people in the army who are like him. I don't think they are all like that, and it's not like any of them want to/should be there. I just think he's a lazy bastard who should be dishonorably discharged. Yes, psychiactric help would be nice.)
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Could've gone mad. That broad grin you see could've been a maniacal laugh.
Originally Posted by O-mie
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Okay, here's a nice comparison.
Take a Doctor or surgeon for example. These people have to slowly cut open people, crack open sternums and wriggle their fingers and various utensils around in squiggling organs. Often times, people die on their watch, or patients are rolled in who look like they have been put in a blender or something. It takes a certain ability to be impartial, a level calm coldness to be able to do their job, the same as a soldier must.
A soldier must be able to know when to take a life and when to preserve one, and as with soldiers too, people will unexpectedly die, and they will have to live with this. However, you don't see the average soldier or doctor going around chucking live animals around.
Any soldier who cannot deal with these types of things - though harsh they may be- even if they're in their peak physical conditions, they are not fit for war, and should be discharged. Mental instabilities, like the one shown in the video, are only problem causers and never do anybody any good.
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Yes, you are correct in which a soldier must understand that people will unexpectedly die. But think of it like this...
One day, you and your friend are driving on the highway...and you somehow end up in a head-to-head collision. Now, you know that people have accidents...and that people die sometimes while on the commute.
However, does that mean you think that it'll happen to you? Your conscious mind may say yes, but truly, in the deepest recesses of your subconscious (I believe your id, for those of you Freudians), you never expect it to happen to you. And you have every right to think so. The statistics of it occurring to you or someone you know is very slim.
Does that not mirror what a soldier might feel? He's just hanging out with his buddies, having a good time...they know that the next day they could be dead, but that subconscious permeates in, and sure, soldiers die...but it's that guy over there and not one of his friends. Thus the ultimate shock and horror when the Humvee in front rolls over an IED and explodes in a massive conflagration, and his best friend from preschool is gone forever.
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03-07-2008, 12:16 AM
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wow thats a d*ck move right there thats not right
i want to do that to him wut a @@@ wow
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