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Old 06-13-2008, 03:28 AM   #21
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This is going to be a long post, but I hope you will read the whole thing and not just skim it.

Firstly, in reference to Rightclaw's reply, he just used incorrect wording. He doesn't actually mean to "control", we can't really "control" people here anyway. If we did, you would have seen a whole heap of certain threads deleted in the past. He also means that, though we do not have the ability to stop young viewers from seeing other "bad" things on the internet, we have the ability to stop them from viewing these "bad" things here on FiestaFan. So since we have the ability to, we want to keep FF here "clean".

Secondly, your initial post was filled with excessive swearing and profanity. Song or not, it really isn't suitable for FiestaFan. It may be alright to you, but please keep in mind there are younger kids here. I don't think I need to say much about what influence it may have on younger people.

Thirdly, in relation to seeing things as "art", people MAY actually see porn as a form of art. If they do, I am not surprised. They can argue that it's just showing a side of human nature to the public. You can almost call anything a form of "art" if you put the time to think about it and argue for it.

But, here is the problem. "Art" is extremely subjective - we all know that. Some people out there still doesn't accept nudity art, some people do. Some people may accept a song with excessive swearing and profanity, some may not. Yes, if you read it carefully, the song is just pointing out certain discrimination issues. But, have you ever wondered why some songs out there have a different radio version where swear words are censored? Why do you think they have censored it? Suppose that people who composed the song/lyrics have a very broad and acceptive perspectives of songs with swearing as a form of "art", yet they still had to censor them for several songs when it goes on radio. Why? Because they want the song to be accepted, and swearing is an unacceptable behaviour to the general public.

We are basically doing the same thing here on FiestaFan. We want FF to be acceptable by the general public. Yes, that song may be viewed as "art", but like I said, anything can be viewed as art if you argue for it. Does that mean we should allow everything to be posted on FiestaFan - porn, swear words, profanity - just because it could be seen as art?

No. FiestaFan is a fan site of a game. We are not an art forum. We are just censoring the forum by following the conventional accepted behaviour.

Just to a side note - I hope you realise that all Rightclaw censored was one word. One word. And that one word is a racial slur. Racial slurs - not allowed. Simple as that, no changing to that. It's already clearly stated in the forum rules. You could have easily taken it out or censor it when you have posted. Please keep in mind you had a LOT more profanity and swearing in that thread. But, we just removed that one racial slur.

If you (you as in, people who don't think we should have removed that one word, not you specifically mikey) argue, "it's just a song", then I can say the same back to you, "it's just a song, why make such a big issue out of it?". Keep in mind we had only given you a warning back then. A warning, not an infraction. Refer to Spirit's post earlier about warnings.

I hope this would clear things up as to what we did in removing that racial slur. To be honest, I don't really know why we had to, since I thought it was pretty clear and obvious that racial slurs are not allowed.
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Old 06-13-2008, 04:35 AM   #22
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I never created this about what the fuck i said...
you people missed the point. what pissed me off is rightclaw
saying he can control what people say. Even from an admin on any
forums site that is pathetic. And most of u cant look past the fact
that a blakc person is using the word beep. Ill say it as i like
because i am a quarter african as some of my family is from sudan.
Go head and censor that but coming for an african canadian person..
its pathetic that u think or other people would think that the word was being
used in a derogatory way. The part of that song was to do with people
being locked up for DUMB ASS reasons. Really read it and think people.
Dont be so fucking ignorant as to just see that the word beep was used.

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Old 06-13-2008, 04:39 AM   #23
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Originally Posted by mikey3536 View Post
I never created this about what the fuck i said...
you people missed the point. what pissed me off is rightclaw
saying he can control what people say. Even from an admin on any
forums site that is pathetic.
Originally Posted by Blaaaaaaaah View Post
Firstly, in reference to Rightclaw's reply, he just used incorrect wording. He doesn't actually mean to "control", we can't really "control" people here anyway. If we did, you would have seen a whole heap of certain threads deleted in the past. He also means that, though we do not have the ability to stop young viewers from seeing other "bad" things on the internet, we have the ability to stop them from viewing these "bad" things here on FiestaFan. So since we have the ability to, we want to keep FF here "clean".
Read my post. I have already posted it. Several other people have already commented on his wording. I have bolded it in red for the sake of it.
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