Swearing

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^ The above post is long, but read it before you post another argument for swearing. Pretty much said everything I want it to say.

I swear when I'm pissed off. I think everyone in here also does that.

I don't, actually. =/

Everyone sees things different. It's like how you see that swearing will not effect kids, while other sees that it has a bad influence.

We generally make rules on FiestaFan going by the conventional views, or the most favoured views, and clearly from this thread, the majority seems to disagree with swearing, hence the rule.

The degree to which a profanity is offensive relies upon how the use of the word affects an individual. Some will consider the original meaning of a word (for example, the sexual act) to be offensive or a subject not fit for polite conversation (cf Ephesians 5:3 "..it is not right that any matters of sexual immorality or indecency or greed should even be mentioned among you. Nor is it fitting for you to use language which is obscene, profane or vulgar.") while others will have no objection to these subject matters. Some will feel that certain words, having an established social taboo are simply offensive, regardless of any context; others will find profanities offensive mainly when used in a way deliberately intended to offend.

As for how it may affect the younger generations, read Dynamic's post. It's very well posted. It's long, but worth a read.

Edit:

Just another thought. Take this analogy. Has your parents, or anyone, ever nagged you? Don't you get annoyed when they repeat the same thing over and over again? "Do you work!" -1 minute later- "Have you done it yet?" -2 minutes later- "Hey have you done your work?" -1 minute later- "Make sure you do your work!"

Doesn't that annoy you? It's like that effect. They may nag you once or twice, fine, but when they nag you just way too many times, it drives you nuts, wouldn't it? You may swear once or twice, but when you do it excessively, it gets irritating for members.

I'm not asking for the definition of swearing, thanks. The discussion is about the effect of swearing on kids (and people now) not about defining swearing. And I didn't offend or insult anybody when swearing. Sigh seeing as you don't like to take in people's opinions, go ahead and do whatever you want with this thread. I don't want any more c--- aswell.

Mmhmm, I thought a definition is enough to show how it will effect kids as well as other regular members? Well, believe it or not, Wikipedia had a whole article on swearing, but I highly doubt they can write so many lines of "definition". For your convenience, I have actually skimmed through and pulled a bit in Wikipedia that will tell you how it will effect kids, as well as other people, since this is what you wanted to know:

Profanity has therefore always been used to describe a word, expression, gesture, or other social behavior which is socially constructed or interpreted as insulting, rude or vulgar, or desecrating or showing disrespect as measured by the religious elite

Why would we want to expose children to an excessive amount of material that teaches them insulting, rude, and vulgar behaviour?

I didn't paste the link there just for the definition, you know. It would have been nice if you gave it a skim through.

If that isn't enough:

http://www.cusscontrol.com/swearing.html

http://www.cyh.com/HealthTopics/Heal...np=287&id=1538

"Swearing in public upsets many people. It is really verbal harassment if other people can hear it.

It is good manners to remember where you are and think about other people's rights and feelings. Everyone has the right to feel safe and having to hear loud nasty words can make people feel unsafe. If people are annoying you by using bad language move away from them and don't use it yourself."

Many other people in the thread also stated other reasons how it may affect other members. If you don't agree with any of them, then it's just the matter perspectives, I suppose.

Of course, this is a topic that pretty much just involves the conflict between different perspectives. Some people see swearing as okay, some people don't. On FiestaFan, we just go by the majority. I am referring back to FiestaFan since I assume the discussion was created from your disagreement about the rule.

If not, to me, it's just a difference in perspectives. I guess there isn't any absolute "right" or "wrong", but the convention is that it's seen as degrading, as shown from the links/quotes I have included above.

If you are not referring to the rule, then perhaps maybe I should have moved this to General Discussions. I'm not really sure what you're arguing for anymore - whether you are arguing for:

- Why swearing is alright; or
- Why is occasional swearing on FF okay but excessive swearing is not okay.

I've typed the post up to explain the latter, but if you're after the first point, then that's not really the purpose of my post to persuade you to think like I do. Just simply explaining why the rule is there.

[Lady-Loki]

Since this thread is a result of the thread with the excessive use of profanity think about it this way:

In a public shopping area you hear some guy says a cuss word as he talks to someone but it really didn't register an alert to you. One or two people hear and think "how un-mannered". However, if this guy lets out a string of 12-15 cuss words you hesitate and you as well as a dozen or more people will stop to see what is going down.

It is really the same with most anything when it is taken to an excess.

One weed in the lawn - no panic.
A dozen weeds in the lawn - someone is doing weeding this weekend.

Some guy drinks a beer - no one really paid attention.
Some guy drinks a dozen beers - people worry if he is gonna fall and break something.

One car wreck on the highway - nothing on the evening news.
A 12 car pile-up on the highway - Story on the evening news.

It does make a difference in many things when there is an excess.

[DarkPysics]

* Duck Tape moparisthebest Mouth* you have Such a Dirty dirty Mouth

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Don't worry, I moved the posts out anyway.

[Belaslav]

I'm having a field trip with this thread.