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01-15-2008, 12:35 AM
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WONDERCLERIC
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Moved as requested, as long as it's not spammed up.
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01-14-2008, 11:10 PM
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Corgi Addict
In-Game Name: Cubyrop(WoW)
Current Level: 85
Server: Maelstrom
Posts: 5,902
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Its not just the economy in the game... its whats available to us and the speed in which we level.
Almost everyone of my friends who has quit has said its because it requires too much grinding to go on further in the game, and that all people seem to do is wanna grind.
Also.. it lacks other things to do. I mean really.. we are limited, people have to come up with stuff to do. We got grinding, KQs, helping people, and just chilling in town and socializing.
Not all of us are little kids or MMO noobs, we know what Fiesta could potentially have and what other MMOs have, and a lot of us started playing in hopes of seeing what Fiesta had, and in... 7 months, really gotten nothing new. Just the same stuff in different forms.
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01-14-2008, 11:14 PM
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Naiad Demon
In-Game Name: Renin
Current Level: Renin- TEVA THE RENIN ON BIJOU IS A IMPOSTER
Server: SANITY IS FOR THE WEAK!!
Posts: 807
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Originally Posted by Yosei
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Its not just the economy in the game... its whats available to us and the speed in which we level.
Almost everyone of my friends who has quit has said its because it requires too much grinding to go on further in the game, and that all people seem to do is wanna grind.
Also.. it lacks other things to do. I mean really.. we are limited, people have to come up with stuff to do. We got grinding, KQs, helping people, and just chilling in town and socializing.
Not all of us are little kids or MMO noobs, we know what Fiesta could potentially have and what other MMOs have, and a lot of us started playing in hopes of seeing what Fiesta had, and in... 7 months, really gotten nothing new. Just the same stuff in different forms.
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Your suggesting also a social issue, which i can agree too..
Another problem is itself, a large amount of fiesta players because of outspark universalizing areas out of Japan are seperated by race, language and culture. With all do respect to all cultures, this puts BIG dividing lines between the community. Hence it becomes signifcantly HARDER to find friends to play with...
anyone wanna go play domo?! XD Jk....
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03-19-2008, 07:03 AM
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Mushroom
In-Game Name: Pertracolas/Pertracolas2
Current Level: 17/28
Server: Teva
Posts: 6
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I dont see why all these People are Complaining, If the Game did give you all the special things that you have to buy with SparkCash, they would mostlikly have to charge people to play. It would be like Final Fantasy 11. But they are at least letting Everyone play for Free, or would you like a bill of $29.99 a month to play Fiesta.
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03-19-2008, 07:10 AM
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Where shall we wander?
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Re-hashed and re-tried argument =/
The Cash-Shop thing was only one facet of the whole thread. Thing is, while what Rokaraged posted a long time ago isn't even the main focus of this thread anymore, it is something that we're playing with right now, months after he posted.
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03-19-2008, 11:59 AM
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Marlone
In-Game Name: AngellicDiety
Current Level: 1 divided by zero
Server: Teva
Posts: 288
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Originally Posted by Pertracolas
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I dont see why all these People are Complaining, If the Game did give you all the special things that you have to buy with SparkCash, they would mostlikly have to charge people to play. It would be like Final Fantasy 11. But they are at least letting Everyone play for Free, or would you like a bill of $29.99 a month to play Fiesta.
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Firstly, this game isn't worth paying to play.
Secondly, the games balance is obstructed as well.
Unlike other games, which have more to do than to mindlessly kill monsters repeatedly, fiesta doesn't have much depth.
A pay to play solution would never work for a game like fiesta.
Secondly, the games balance is thrown off by classes, bugs, and of course, the cash shop only servers to compound the issue.
The cash shop is a way for them to make money, yes. But the moment you divide the game with cash-shop items, you only create problems with balance.
With all things considered, it shouldn't be possible for archers and mages to tank. Yet they can, and they can do it better than many fighters or clerics.
You can buy a nearly permanent upgrade to your HP/SP pool. You can buy a nearly permanent boost in exp-rates.
So, I'll let you decide whether having cash shop items isn't compounding this issue of balance.
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03-22-2008, 07:36 PM
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Mushroom
In-Game Name: Pertracolas/Pertracolas2
Current Level: 17/28
Server: Teva
Posts: 6
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The Main Focus
All I'm Saying is that Everyone is Complaining way too much for somthing that is Free. When you get something that is for free(For Example: A Remote Controll race car) you get the Race car and you dont complain till you realize that u need Batteries to make it work. Well at least you didnt have to pay for the $30 race car, all you have to pay for is the $5 Batteries. So you people Complain for all the little things that happen in the game when at least you get the main peace to make it all work FOR FREE.
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03-23-2008, 12:11 AM
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Mushroom
In-Game Name: Pertracolas/Pertracolas2
Current Level: 17/28
Server: Teva
Posts: 6
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I've Never used Cash Shop, your saying the more i use Cash Shop the more likely I'm going to run into problems. Should I use Cash Shop?
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01-14-2008, 11:15 PM
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Hardcore Procrastinator
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I think its just that u've played the game for a very long time and probably getting a bit bored of it and so i see all the bad side coming out...
just like how u started going out with a new gf.. u're madly in love with her and she seems perfect for the 1st 2 weeks then once u got use to her all the things u dislike starts coming out.. but it doesnt mean she's a horrible person... if u know wat i mean..
1. Yeah they're annoying... but i only ever see them in BH and some in MT... report them so they dont get higher!
2. only a VERY small population buy gold from these dodgy sites riiiiiiight? i hope so =/
3. if Outspark realise that they're not getting enough ppl to sign up i'm sure that'll be the 1st thing they attend to.... (more player = more revenue, they'll look at this before bot issues) And are ppl going into Bijou? its probably quite normal that new players pick the 1st server...
4. yeah they're a company not a charity, if cash items are tradable u'll hv an even worst economy hit than gold site trying to sell in game money...
1. (why is it back to 1 again HAHA) didnt they say the chinese version everyone use hacks and bots.. well u just complained about that... so would u want just 3 hair to choose from... and have everyone using hack and bots?
2. the "prize" i got from Dakkon were 3 stockings -.- i dont think the non-cash user were missing out on much
gotta double post coz u guys posted too quickly for me...
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4. My problem is outspark from what i've seen is COMPLETELY focused on the cash shoppers.
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They dont... new maps, fix quest, juice bars, screen shot event... (i'm sure there are more) they're all available for non-cash players too... its not like they attend to our problems before the non-cash players problem anyway
Foxy answered my bijou question... but i'm sure if there's a decrease in population, outspark would ensure the marketing department get to work...
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01-14-2008, 11:22 PM
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Naiad Demon
In-Game Name: Renin
Current Level: Renin- TEVA THE RENIN ON BIJOU IS A IMPOSTER
Server: SANITY IS FOR THE WEAK!!
Posts: 807
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Originally Posted by Hessah
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1. (why is it back to 1 again HAHA) didnt they say the chinese version everyone use hacks and bots.. well u just complained about that... so would u want just 3 hair to choose from... and have everyone using hack and bots?
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1. Is pretty irrelevant to the problem
And i guess ur right about the GF thing... >.>;;
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Warslave= Not a person who is enslaved and sent to war to die but a person who is a slave to war itself.
Self Proclaimed Fighter Advocate
The meaning of victory is not to defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his every achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can recover. That is the meaning of victory.
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