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Synelia · 07-24-2007, 05:39 PM

if you're going to increase DEX for aim and dodge, why are you kiting? That doesn't make a lot of sense to me..But then again, I don't know exactly what your build is. Could you tell us? Like, is it 2:2:1 STR DEX SPR that goes to 2:2:1 STR SPR DEX?

Right now my archer is 2:1:1 DEX STR SPR. I'll probably make it 2:2:1 DEX SPR STR or something, I'm not too sure.

What is DPS btw?

**Rightclaw** · 07-24-2007, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by Synelia

if you're going to increase DEX for aim and dodge, why are you kiting? That doesn't make a lot of sense to me..But then again, I don't know exactly what your build is. Could you tell us? Like, is it 2:2:1 STR DEX SPR that goes to 2:2:1 STR SPR DEX?

Right now my archer is 2:1:1 DEX STR SPR. I'll probably make it 2:2:1 DEX SPR STR or something, I'm not too sure.

What is DPS btw?

Damage per second.

Mujica · 07-24-2007, 06:17 PM

@Fullblack - I'm not adding an insane amount of spr as i go, just enough to get me by with some extra sp to hopefully boost my skill usage. Using SPR to its fullest wont be used until later on when i give it my focus once around level 30 although i do have to look into the fact of when your crit rating does look like its taking a climb and probably start building it a level or two after that level. Until then however it will be kept at a minimum and pts will only be added to it as needed if see fit by the fact that skills will probably be used in long strung out situations, like if you usually use 3 skills max for a fight and kill the monster but you also pretty much run out of sp, i would plan on using 1 skill ea fight to improve my kill rate and most likely kill with a better efficieny if i did REG for 2/3 of my fight and, like i said, spaced out my sp skills throughout multiple fights.

@Synelia - I'm going for a 2:2:1 Str/Dex/Spr and later switching the dex with spr for Str/Spr/Dex. Im getting the dex for the perfect dodges and the aim for when i do kite, my attacks dont miss and if something goes wrong, i have a high chance to dodge the attack therefore basically making it like it didn't even happen at all. The shorter it takes to carry out a fight, the better, although i dont know how much monsters in this game dodge so im going with the prenotion that they have a fairly good chance to dodge, figuring something like a 1 in 10 chance. Im mainly looking to widen that gap to mayby something like a 1 in 20 chance which would help later on in levels, not early on.

Ps: i will have a small string of vit just so i wont get 1 ~ 3 shot if even possible in this game when/if the dodge rating does give out. Gotta have a backup, right?

Synelia · 07-24-2007, 06:23 PM

I don't get this. You are going to have a large amount of DEX. A higher dodge rate, and you're kiting? O.o If it keeps missing you why you falling back? I don't understand this at all..

Thanks rightie for telling me

Mujica · 07-24-2007, 06:40 PM

I guess im explaining what im going for as far as specific numbers in stat-wise goes. Lemme try again, sorry, lol. I've been seeing the way you put your numbers like ( 3:3:1 of being priority, am i right? ) if so i've just been confusing myself there. Let me clarify x_X. For stats i plan on raising my str the most, i plan on getting a solid amount of dex for the dodge and aim as previously stated, but not a huge amount of it, just enough so when/if i do get into melee range, they miss me. I'm not stocking up on it, although it will have points put into it beacuse im sure there are going to be times when you have to be able to kite 2 ~ 3 monsters at a time, mayby beacuse of a mistaken pull, or you wanted to tag every monster in your sights. In most games ive come to play, the more monsters that are on you the harder it is for your character to dodge ( The logical way to go ), so if something gets in my way or something unfortunate happens my dodge will be able to pickup, even with this reduction but i only plan on having enough to suffice unless the hit rating ratio is clarified, and if it is i'll probably only a bit more than what i plan on adding already.

+Tequila+ · 07-24-2007, 07:19 PM

Dont worry about it Mujica Synelia jus doesnt understand how to kite...or the importance of it later on in game...no matter how well you explain it she will always not get it.

..an always will act like she knows better. But thats just life. But as Rightclaw says I would skip SPR...the dex rate increases much to slow..2:2:1 str:dex:end might work better as it will increase your hp and defense slightly...both of which are way more important then crit rate. Speed Scrolls are useful for archers in pvp and pve an so is kiting.

Mujica · 07-24-2007, 08:25 PM

I'll take your suggestion into account, thanks =).

+Tequila+ · 07-24-2007, 08:59 PM

i hope it helps really =/

Dynamics · 08-03-2007, 03:28 PM

@OP

I believe strength isn't a very useful stat in most cases. You're either sacrificing the chance to dodge with dexterity, or critical with spirit for every point you invest in strength. Remember, strength will only give you one damage per point (and an extra one at the 5th cumulative point), and compared to the damage from licenses and weapons alone, this is not much.

At the moment I have a level 27 full spirit archer, whose base damage is 200-250 with a critical chance of 16%. If I had invested in strength and disregarded my spirit, my critical rate would only be 10% (from my equipment and scrolls), and would have had 232-282 damage. To me, that bonus damage isn't much at all. This will still hold true as I level up and weapon base damage increases, making the bonus damage from strength even more insignificant. That extra 6% chance to critical for DOUBLE damage is what matters to me. And nothing is more satisfying then getting critical damage with power shot for 550 damage. I find this occurs one out of every 5 monsters I initiate combat with, and if the critical doesn't proc with power shot, I have three other skills up my sleeve to try and achieve this.

Also, whilst adding spirit there is a sudden cap to the growth of critical percentage added. After achieving 5.0% critical with SPR points, you'll notice critical will only grow at a rate of 0.1% per point now. What you choose to do with this cap in mind is solely up to you. Personally I choose to invest in spirit alone.

**Rightclaw** · 08-03-2007, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by Dynamics

@RightClaw

How in the world does dexterity increase the DPS of an archer? Dexterity has no affect on damage nor does it have any affect on attack speed (this is a fixed value at the moment).

@OP

I believe strength isn't a very useful stat in most cases. You're either sacrificing the chance to dodge with dexterity, or critical with spirit for every point you invest in strength. Remember, strength will only give you one damage per point (and an extra one at the 5th cumulative point), and compared to the damage from licenses and weapons alone, this is not much.

At the moment I have a level 27 full spirit archer, whose base damage is 200-250 with a critical chance of 16%. If I had invested in strength and disregarded my spirit, my critical rate would only be 10% (from my equipment and scrolls), and would have had 232-282 damage. To me, that bonus damage isn't much at all. This will still hold true as I level up and weapon base damage increases, making the bonus damage from strength even more insignificant. That extra 6% chance to critical for DOUBLE damage is what matters to me. And nothing is more satisfying then getting critical damage with power shot for 550 damage. I find this occurs one out of every 5 monsters I initiate combat with, and if the critical doesn't proc with power shot, I have three other skills up my sleeve to try and achieve this.

She was asking what DPS meant. I'm well aware Dex doesn't add damage.