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Old 01-30-2008, 12:04 AM   #41
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Then assuming everyone came prepared for PvP, where would that put you as a cleric?
hmm this is getting complicated... i guess the rest will come down to strategy...
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Old 01-30-2008, 12:06 AM   #42
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Point being a cleric isn't exactly useful to PvP as it currently stands.
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Old 01-30-2008, 12:09 AM   #43
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Yeah OK i'll agree on that XD

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I hate whoever +repped me for my second post. </3

When I said 2-3 seconds for the stun, its more like 1.5-2, tops. It might give you about 2 steps of running time, but to say that is a real stun is a joke.

I like how clerics can live when they take aggro when we AoE, but by no means should they have more DEF than a fighter (which they currently do). I think it's pretty much BS, because it even says on the Fiesta main page that fighters are the class with most HP/DEF! IIRC, the issues page lists the stat problem for fighters. I don't think others classes were really effected.

Damage is just something you have to sacrifice for a potentially limitless amount of heals/HP (unless they somehow OHKO you in PvP...).
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I like how clerics can live when they take aggro when we AoE, but by no means should they have more DEF than a fighter (which they currently do). I think it's pretty much BS, because it even says on the Fiesta main page that fighters are the class with most HP/DEF! IIRC, the issues page lists the stat problem for fighters. I don't think others classes were really effected.
we ONLY have more def compare to a fighter of the same level IF they are a 2H user... if they hv a shield.. they still have more def...

and none-the-less.. fighters have MORE HP... (my grinding buddy has 500 more HP being 3 lvls under me)... so... he survive a MD KQ Robo hit, while i die instantly...
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If the 1-handed swords were as powerful as an axe then we would need toning down. But right now as it stands, 1 handed shield fighters do have less defense than a cleric stock because of our altered stats. If anything we need an increase..
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Angelic is right, unless they fixed fighters sometime between now and Dec. 18th.
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but but.. i thought i compared my Def to Kev and he has more def if he use a shield 0.o

-ok i think i shall go back and confirm-
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but but.. i thought i compared my Def to Kev and he has more def if he use a shield 0.o

-ok i think i shall go back and confirm-
Does he have the same build (END-wise), same + on his shield?

I forget if the DEF is when you have no armor/shield on or not.
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i'm 25 SPR rest END... and he's about the same if i remember correctly..

Oh i hv a +6 shield and his one is just clean... and i hv +END boots and +END armour and +END Ring LOL! theortically my DEF should be higher... so even after all that my def is still about the same then fighters definitely hv more def LOL

i guess i'll go home and double check 2nite..
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