I think people should learn to treat clerics with respect.

[Lady-Loki]

And disagree we shall.

When you made a cleric, you should have known what responsibilities come with it. You have to heal, you have to Def/M Def buff, and you have to revive, unless you want your KQ to lose.

I have no responsibility to heal, buff or rez anyone. I do it because I choose to. When I selected the cleric class there was no pop-up that stated that in order for me to create a cleric had had to agree to this and own this as my responsibility. It is a service I have the ability to bestow upon others but I am not in any way obligated to provide these services at the cost of my pots and stones.

That said, I will and do heal and rez when I can, and when I have the hp/sp buff I will buff people who ask nicely or who I choose to randomly buff.

I think people have every right to scream at a cleric who won’t heal, because it’s their responsibility to do so, since no other classes can.

It annoys me how clerics get all mad about this. People have as much right as they want to get pissed if the tank dies multiple times due to lack of heals.

No they don’t. No one has the right to scream at me – for anything. If you scream at me or demand that I heal or rez you then you have a lesser chance of me healing or rezzing you. Do not scream at me and do not demand that I stop protecting myself or whoever I may be protecting just to use my pots and stones to heal you while you stockpile all your pots and stones.

It annoys me how clerics get all mad about this. People have as much right as they want to get pissed if the tank dies multiple times due to lack of heals.

The tank has the right to use stones and pots or not. If they choose not to and “expect” the clerics to spam heal on them then they chose to take the risk and that choice resulted in their death.

I have been in too many KQ’s on all of the classes. When I take my tank in I use pots and stones and I am grateful to any cleric who bestows heals on me, but never, let me repeat, never have I demanded heals or rez. I have had my tank die many times because I could not spam stones and pots fast enough. And even then I did not blame the cleric nor did I call them names because of it.

I do not consider that my tank is the almighty and MUST be healed non-stop and I do not consider that my cleric is anybody’s personal fountain of heal.

As I said at the very beginning: And disagree we shall.

[NotMyWay]

i know that in kq i should buff and heal teamates to increase the chances of surviving (only if they are polite), but what i dont like is that people in town demand 'hp buff' (i cant even use it yet, and they didnt even say pls, and they spammed pms when im afk), and i also dislike people who demand that i party them, but refuse to put sequential allocation so that they can loot everything. also, in a party, if you think people have a right to scream at the cleric when his heal or revive is cooling down (yes i've played a kq where many non-tankers outside my party somehow managed to die to marlone and i was the only cleric), why dont u think people have the right to scream at the damage dealers for not killing a monster as fast as u expect them to, or scream at a tanker who cannot kick multiple monsters and whose mock is cooling?

I also dont like being ksed just because i refuse to party people who loot everything. I dont remember any ToS which said that "All clerics must have a party at all times and are forbidden to solo"

btw, there are people who dont use stones/pots? i even use hp stones on my cleric...

[Valentines]

All of this, in this thread, is exactly why I didn't choose a cleric.

=)

[Spirit]

@ Lady-Loki -

[Hessah]

And disagree we shall.

I have no responsibility to heal, buff or rez anyone. I do it because I choose to. When I selected the cleric class there was no pop-up that stated that in order for me to create a cleric had had to agree to this and own this as my responsibility. It is a service I have the ability to bestow upon others but I am not in any way obligated to provide these services at the cost of my pots and stones.

Thanks Loki ^ Totally Agreed.

That is the exact attitude people shouldnt take. Just because WE CAN, doesnt mean we HAVE TO. This is for out of party/KQ, but even in KQ/party there's also a limit to how fast we can heal/revive, other people should be responsible for their own lives as well! Why arent there fighters complaining that "clerics was blaming me for her death coz i couldnt keep the aggro on me"

Also, if u think about it, the quickest way a cleric can heal 4 ppl that's atking, she has to do it in 8 secs, and although 2 sec cool down doesnt seem like a lot, it builds up! anyway

I just got my buff skills and am happy to randomly buff people.. i get a bit taken aback if ppl just say "buff plz", i'm much happier if people address the request to me like "Hessah can you buff me plz", it just seems more polite.. but i guess i'm not too fussed... i buff them anyway.. JUST COZ I'M NICE!

But not everyone is bad..

The other day i was in CP, coming back to my party after i restocked, on the bridge before u go into the prisoners... and i aggroed some harkens so i was on the bridge killing them off...

this guy saw me... and stood there watching me kill my 3 harkens, and the entire time he just waited and said nothing... it would've been a good min or two since i was killing it by myself (party was AFK)... and the whole time i was half expecting him to ask for buff..

Nope.. he waited ALL the way till i finished with my mob before asking "hessah can you cast endure me please?" And I happily gave it to him... and even restored his health (i would restore his SP too if i could)

That's the respect we're talking about!

[Fr0Z3nWind]

at least i ask politely once and dont spam
if i didnt get it, i'll just say nvm thanks
and go back go killing spamming stones (really dont mind that except getting mobbed ahh!! >< 1% T_T jkjk xD i dont mind deaths either)

[Blaaaaaaaah]

Put a level cap on the CP gate and problem solved. Wish they truly did... As for cleric respect, everyone's got a job (class job). Whoever isn't doing their job, in a party, shouldn't get any respect or xp...

Lmaooooooooooo!

I think people have every right to scream at a cleric who wont heal, because its their responsibility to do so, since no other classes can.

Correct to some extent. Only if that person is partying with the cleric, and that the cleric can actually heal depending on the situation.

Seriously, don't scream at us if all of the other party members are going down quickly. Or if the cleric is having trouble surviving him/herself. I mean, if the cleric is being an ass and is really slow at healing, then scream by all means.

Clerics do have the responsibility if they're in a party. Parties are formed so the players can cooperate with each other. All classes do their own bits in order to keep the party alive and going.

However, if it's someone that's not partying with the cleric, then go awai pliz.

Well I don't really care if they ask me for buffs, I usually just ignore them or tell them I don't have the buff (which is the truth lol). But meh, I still remember writing a mega bit rant on this long ago back in CB.

It's really frustrating at first, but you really only need to put up with this at lower levels, and usually only in KQs. I don't party with strangers, so I never had this problem when I'm grinding, but it's usually the KQs that are really annoying. I guess I kinda learned to ignore the whiners and keep the good people alive instead, LOL.

You get used to it.

[Hessah]

trouble is.. i think most ppl on this forum is nice enough... not to get to spammy about 'heal plz, buff plz, rezzzzzz plz"

its those ppl on the official forum that needs to look at this thread.... XD

[Fr0Z3nWind]

nobs and agrees with ^
or some people just need a manner course

[viasta]

hahahaha, manner course for rude people? nope, that never works :/, tried it before on my cousin