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Old 12-07-2007, 12:35 PM   #1
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Originally Posted by Hraesvelg
I could get into the reasons why a "gene" for homosexuality could arise and be evolutionarily stable, but it'd probably be over the heads of people who are wont to complain about it anyway. But, if anyone would like to discuss it further, I'm only a private message away.
a gene that favors same gender sex? Such genes will die out very fast. I guess in my tongue i would call u a "Utopist" with a bit contempt in my tone, but i cant find a suitable translation :"utopian" is the direct translation but i don't know if it means the same.

anyway, i don't care if someone is gay or not. Same goes for marriage: Who ever wants to marry someone should do it.

On the other site: people who never have kids are a huge loss for genetic diversity and humanity. But such thinks doens't exist in mmorgs
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Old 12-07-2007, 12:41 PM   #2
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a gene that favors same gender sex? Such genes will die out very fast.
May I ask, why would you say that? D:
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Old 12-07-2007, 12:49 PM   #3
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May I ask, why would you say that? D:
It makes sense from an evolutionary stand point. If someone were a homosexual, then they would not pass on their genes to the next generation, since they would not be with someone of the opposite sex. If the genes aren't passed on, then the gene would dissapear from the gene pool eventually.

Back on to the topic, I have no problem with the idea of same sex marriages. The worst part of this is that its just a game. Its not like they are forcing people to marry the same sex in game. Most people would still probably just do opposite sex marriages. But this was just in a game. Why should people care what fictional fantasy characters do in a fiction fantasy game?
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In-game wouldn't mean much to me, since i'm a guy playing a girl. But i could see and understand the arguments one might have against it. IRL, is totally a different story. Where do we draw the line? Some siblings have strong emotions for each other. Aunt/uncle-nephew/niece relations? Check out "Oldboy", korean movie. Sure it's only a movie, but how real is it, in reality? Some pet owners have given millions to their pet, so that the pet would live a "good" life til it dies; yea that's another story but same parrallel.
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Its funny about the evangelical parents thing - because I remember seeig a news segment about th at evangelical priest dude who was really famous or something, turns out he's gay... lmfao

And yeah, its not like homosexuality is new...artifacts from ancient greece even show it was done that far back, by many. =o
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Its not like these games are extremely popular ^^;; Maybe if it were WoW or Everquest or one of those big ones.
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There was a story about a gay/lesbian only guild in WoW, at one time. Twas like a year ago or so. I forget the details.
I'm not putting down homosexuals, if that's the way you swing, good for you. Everyone has the right to their beliefs, sexual orientation. I just think a marriage belong to a man and a woman. Marriage was made for procreation, and you can't procreate with the same sex... If someone wants their "relationship" to be "recognize" for legal purpose after death and whatnot, they should get some other type of legal document, which name i cannot think of right now...
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Statistically speaking, an individual has the same chances of sharing a particular gene with a sibling* (I'm using gene in the sense of "bit of DNA that is the fundamental unit of heredity") as they are of their own offspring, both at 50%. It might benefit an individual, therefore, to develop a non-reproductive strategy, in order to care for siblings.

Granted, I'm not including homo sapiens in this, as consciousness throws a bit of a spanner into pure genetic determination. Then we get to talking about memes in association with genes and it gets even more complicated. I've truly making these statements in very broad terms. Reading more about the subject of will help you see why the "common sense" approach isn't always the correct one. Richard Dawkins is a good place to start, "The Selfish Gene" in particular.

*A sibling from a monogamous parental mating.
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I'm not against same-gender marriages. I don't even see what's so fascinating about it. If you want to go "ooh, ahh, ew, it's homosexuality!" to every same-sex marriage out there, then why don't you go "ooh, ahh, ew, it's heterosexuality!" to every different-gender marriage out there?
It's just another part of life.
NA, in general, isn't as accepting of this idea because they don't have the tradition of marrying family members and same gender members etc.

When a girl plays a guy, or a guy plays a girl in online games and marry though, I'm a little disgusted. Not that I'm against it - I know that some people want to be of the opposite gender - but it's just not what I'm used to. I think that goes for same-sex marriages for some people.
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You're equating homosexuality with incest?
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