Deity Existence

[Ivramire]

1. The majority were middleaged people of the Lower-Middle Class. A few of the Upperclassmen too.

2. The explaination it had relies on there being a deity present, so it'll be shotdown automatically, im sure, but it was that God hardened their hearts so that the act could be fufilled and sin could be overcome. but that's the only explaination that really makes much sense. in a matter of a week, you dont go from believing everything someone says to calling them a dirty liar without feesible evidence. The only crime they had against him was that he claimed to be the Messiah. People in the city had just a few days or weeks before also believed that. they just suddenly began agreeing with the opposite side, though. please explain how people go from thinking you're litterally God to thinking you're a blasphemer in days without feesible evidence.

3. Sorry, i made an error there. It doesnt make my argument any less week.

And he was a religious man. Most people back then were too. He would make sure to considerably weigh his evidence before going out and putting the souls of his self and others at risk.

1. I'd ask you to clarify what you meant, particularly regarding the first point as it doesn't seem to address my post. But I'm not going to bother.


2. Your mileage may vary. Because it certainly doesn't make any sense to me. What kind of scenario is it that this is the only feasible explanation?


To argue the point anyway, Jesus wasn't put to death by the collective Jewish-community, he was supposedly set-up by the Jewish Council, exactly for what they saw to be him claiming to be the Messiah. From my understanding of it, they seeded the crowd with their supporters so that when it came to the vote between Barabas (sp?) and Jesus, the cries for Jesus came out louder. A possible explanation, one that even bypasses their ''attitude-shift.''


3.''He had some kind of reason for believing he was the messiah, and was incorrect''


Still doesn't change the aspect that he could have been incorrect or been doing it for any other reason.


4. You didn't address my last point.