Starvation

**Lirange** · 06-04-2009, 04:47 AM

warning: may have disturbing footage

YouTube - Chew on this PETA

#15 grain used to feed them (animals) could feed them (starving kid)
this reminded me of that

**Yosei** · 06-04-2009, 06:49 AM

Again, like we've said before, life just isn't fair.

Africa has the potential to be the richest continent in the world, with all of the resources and not to mention diamonds it contains. But it lacks the systems, structure and the people in the countries lack a common ground to thrive like countries like America (not saying this is the case for all of the countries).

Americans are losing jobs, on the verge of becoming homeless, yet a company is out sourcing jobs to India, and other less developed countries. One might say thats good for the people in those countries. But what about home? I personally think countries should fend for themselves when it comes to such things.

Might come off as harsh. But really, the thought of our own people becoming homeless in one of the richest countries in the world just so a company can save a buck and use "helping underdeveloped countries" as an excuse isn't cool to me.

Things like this are a slap of reality for the rest of us. We wouldn't know what we had until we saw someone who didn't have it.

Bubs · 06-04-2009, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by Lirange

warning: may have disturbing footage
YouTube - Chew on this PETA
#15 grain used to feed them (animals) could feed them (starving kid)
this reminded me of that

When your 20, you need to eat meat tho =/
Helps your system grow

Ontopic:
Yay! Some people agree with me, they do have everything/kinda that they need to develop, they arent using it.
The rich ppls in Africa and such are being greedy and taking everything.
If they would share, things could become clearer
I know, Ireland for a fact, donates over 2,000Euro every year to them and also two or three cows to them.
We help them with water and aid them too.
But are they using or learning what we give them?

**Hraesvelg** · 06-04-2009, 09:29 AM

I'm actually rather surprised that Jik thinks there is a problem, since a lot of Africa is in nearly a pure libertarian/anarchistic state.

Jikanu · 06-04-2009, 01:46 PM

Im not an Anarchist Without Adjectives (i.e. pure anarchy) Im an Anarcho-Socialist. I believe in structure and rules, just that the people should be the authority figure, not the government.

And the same problem in africa is going on in native-american reservations... the rich families get benefits, and the poor get nothing :/

I hope that things arent always like this... *Sigh*

As for outsourcing... im not sure of my position on that quite yet. though i AM against the companies using it an excuse, it DOES do alot of good over there... perhaps if we came up with good new jobs here too, like building wind-energy generating turbines and maintaining them, it could kill two birds with one stone? wind energy's doing fantastically well in Spain right now, we need to catch up. And, while doing it, the economy could be stimulated.

**Yosei** · 06-04-2009, 04:35 PM

But a lot of people do not enjoy calling customer support for their whatever and they get a man with broken English, can barely understand what he's saying, but his name is "Bob".

I believe in helping home before going further. Why should we support other countries if we cannot support our own?

And Hrae wasn't calling you an anarchist, he said Africa is dominantly anarchy and libertarian.

aramil001 · 06-04-2009, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by Yosei

But a lot of people do not enjoy calling customer support for their whatever and they get a man with broken English, can barely understand what he's saying, but his name is "Bob".

I believe in helping home before going further. Why should we support other countries if we cannot support our own?

And Hrae wasn't calling you an anarchist, he said Africa is dominantly anarchy and libertarian.

yes, well put. But now you can chat online with people, about problems, so it's harder to tell.

Jikanu · 06-04-2009, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by Yosei

But a lot of people do not enjoy calling customer support for their whatever and they get a man with broken English, can barely understand what he's saying, but his name is "Bob".

I believe in helping home before going further. Why should we support other countries if we cannot support our own?

And Hrae wasn't calling you an anarchist, he said Africa is dominantly anarchy and libertarian.

But he was asking why i didnt like how it was over there, due to it's anarchistic ways. It's not an organized anarchy over there, but Chaos. those two things are mistaken for each other far too often...

**Hraesvelg** · 06-04-2009, 08:57 PM

Organized anarchy? You must be joking. That type of thing would only work on a very small-scale. Once a disagreement rears its head, the strongest wins.

**Yosei** · 06-04-2009, 09:10 PM

Some people do not like the idea of being rules by someone or a group of people being in charge. Some don't even like democracy, because either way, someones in charge, and you still lose out, especially when you have an opinion opposite of the majority.

Many countries in Africa DO NOT believe in the same things Americans do. In a country, there are smaller communities who believe in things like Hrae mentioned. There are little tribes/villages who have come together and made up their own laws, rules, etc, because they are just a small group of people who believe in similar stuff. Many tribes are ENEMIES. If you do not believe in what they do, or you come trying to change their views, they probably wouldn't like you or even consider anything you say. Hell, some might even chase you out or kill you. But I'm not going to stereotype.

People just have different beliefs =/ some would rather starve to death then have to listen to some authority figure. And some just aren't developing or believe in democracy, equality and rights like America and other developed countries do. I mean sheesh, the apartheid wasn't that long ago, and the Berlin wall went down the year I was born.