Deity Existence - Page 40

**Vasu** · 04-29-2009, 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by Ivramire

I guess if you assume the existence of a god, you assume the existence of both retribution and the inherent afterlife in which it will be doled out.

That's the way I understand it.

But that has no basis whatsoever. Alright, you can argue that god is the creator of the world, therefore we think god exists. While that presents a problem of it's own, atleast you can understand why they're saying that. Now why the hell do we want to hypothesise an afterlife? (pun intended

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Wait... This has nothing to do with the current subject in the argument but something kinda struck me.
If the bible stories are true and he created the world in 7 days.
If God is so All-powerfull, then why did he need to rest on the 7th day ? If he is a spiritual being he shouldn't get fatigue.

Dude, there's no point in asking these questions, because they'll conveniently be dumped in the "figurative" bin.

**Ivramire** · 04-29-2009, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by Vasu

But that has no basis whatsoever. Alright, you can argue that god is the creator of the world, therefore we think god exists. While that presents a problem of it's own, atleast you can understand why they're saying that. Now why the hell do we want to hypothesise an afterlife? (pun intended )

We didn't hypothesise an afterlife.

Scripture writers did. In fact, most religions have their own version of what happens after we all kick it.

**Vasu** · 04-29-2009, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by Ivramire

We didn't hypothesise an afterlife.

Scripture writers did. In fact, most religions have their own version of what happens after we all kick it.

And there is once again, no proof that such and such will happen after we kick it.

**Ivramire** · 04-29-2009, 09:09 AM

You've perhaps missed my point.

All my recent posts were expounding on my rationale behind the ''god=parent'' analogy.

Not on anything else.

**Vasu** · 04-29-2009, 09:20 AM

I conceded that point, LOL.

**Phantom Badger** · 05-01-2009, 04:02 PM

I'm not sure if it's been posted but anti-semitism is in the bible, the ones I know are in the book of John. Now is God was real, and Jesus is God in the form of a Human then surely he wouldn't let Racism be put in his holy book, but at the time that was accepted as an all around fact about the Jewish, that they were below us. So when these people though up of the bible story (That's what I believe happened, they amde it up) They thought it would be okay to include that.

pigspark · 05-01-2009, 04:05 PM

but is the bible really right or is the other religions true?

**Vasu** · 05-01-2009, 04:13 PM

@ BDEX

There is so much bloodshed, racism and violence in the OT, that it's hard to understand how people can equate all this with a benevolent god. Sure, the "times were different" in the OT, but being omnipotent, you would think god could come up with a non-violent solution.

@ pigspark

There is no way to know.

**Phantom Badger** · 05-01-2009, 04:26 PM

Allrighty then... another attempt of mine shot down again @_@

**Vasu** · 05-01-2009, 05:10 PM

It's not exactly "shot down" I'm just pointing out that while those points are kinda valid, they will never be accepted.