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View Poll Results: Is there a God?
There are many gods. 2 3.17%
There is one impersonal god. 2 3.17%
There is one personal god 13 20.63%
There is/are no god(s) 14 22.22%
There may be a god/gods, but so far there is no proof of their existence. 32 50.79%
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Old 04-17-2009, 05:25 PM   #1
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But what if both theories can coexist to make one beautiful one? isnt it at all possible that whatever Divine Being created us used the laws of physics, biology, everything to make us? Isnt it possible to believe that God created the Big Bang, and did it in such a perfect way that everything that came afterwards would be in just the right place? that earth would be exactly the correct distance from the sun, and so on and so forth?
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Old 04-17-2009, 05:30 PM   #2
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But what if both theories can coexist to make one beautiful one? isnt it at all possible that whatever Divine Being created us used the laws of physics, biology, everything to make us? Isnt it possible to believe that God created the Big Bang, and did it in such a perfect way that everything that came afterwards would be in just the right place? that earth would be exactly the correct distance from the sun, and so on and so forth?
Once again, possible, improbable, no evidence either way.
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Old 04-17-2009, 05:31 PM   #3
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*shrugs* would it not be the least bit more probable than everything just landing in the right way by chance?
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Old 04-17-2009, 05:34 PM   #4
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*shrugs* would it not be the least bit more probable than everything just landing in the right way by chance?
No, it wouldn't.
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Old 04-17-2009, 05:36 PM   #5
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No, it wouldn't.
Would it help if there was no right or wrong way? Things just happened the way they did?
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Old 04-17-2009, 05:48 PM   #6
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I'm agnostic about dinner, because I don't know what I'm making, but I'll soon have evidence enough on that question.
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*shrugs* would it not be the least bit more probable than everything just landing in the right way by chance?
The probability of the big bang happening and ending up with me typing is unable to be calculated. But that withstanding we are here.
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Old 04-17-2009, 05:40 PM   #7
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Forgot to quote this one too.

This belief is called Deism. The one "god" put everything in motion, natural principles, physics, evolution, etc. to end up creating something beautiful. Much like a clockmaker throws a bunch of parts together and it eventually forms a working clock.
The problem i have with Deism is that, from what i've heard (correct me if im wrong) whatever Deity created us just moved on and hasnt interfered since. I find that kinda hard to believe since every artist views his work and make it better, and that's kind of what God is; a divine artist of sorts.

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No, it wouldn't.
So everything just happened to end up the way it is by chance? the sun just happened to be the right distance from the earth? H2O just happened to form on our planet, while on most other planets we've discovered have none in its liquid form? i find that very hard to believe.
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The problem i have with Deism is that, from what i've heard (correct me if im wrong) whatever Deity created us just moved on and hasnt interfered since. I find that kinda hard to believe since every artist views his work and make it better, and that's kind of what God is; a divine artist of sorts.
Correct. I've not found the appropriate term for that religion yet though. It is entirely possible since a clockmaker occasionally has to make repairs, or may make improvements to help the clock's efficiency.
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*shrugs* Catholicism makes enough sense to me, in terms of pure religious doctrine; some of the social teachings i don't agree with, but in terms of teachings on all divine beings, it makes sense to me.
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So everything just happened to end up the way it is by chance? the sun just happened to be the right distance from the earth? H2O just happened to form on our planet, while on most other planets we've discovered have none in its liquid form? i find that very hard to believe.
We've only been able to explore the tiniest fraction of the universe in terms of life-sustainability, and you're already calling it quits? This is the true danger of belief in the supernatural. It stifles scientific inquiry. You're ready to throw in the towel and say "God did it!" at the virtual drop of a hat. Let's see how many more metaphors I can mix.
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