Originally Posted by Senyx The Soulless one
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Well for one, The "Truth" i was raised to believe is that God has always been there. An eternity before us, Sitting there, no one created him, He has just always been there, If you think to hard, Your head starts to hurt, no?
And secondly, Why would god sit there for an infinity before us? Was he bored and decided to make us?
And also: Adam and Eve were the most base version of humanity, God knew that they were capable of wrongdoing and gave them that choice, I believe that god knows what we would have all done, before we, ourselves did it, Fair? No. But that's just how lovely he is.
I personally would have been happy naked and stupid. But clothed and banished from a garden seems okay too..
My point stands: What god is that merciless?
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Perhaps it's not that he's merciless... perhaps the world is going to have some kind of dramatic change because of everything that's happening. perhaps the world will be 10 times better because of all of this in a few years. maybe a new government will form and we'll have world peace. Who knows till it happens?
And on the topic of original sin: Life is passed down from our forefathers, and so is the first sin. it's simply it's nature. it's not a sin in the regular sense of the word, just a lack of holiness.
And as for the omnipotent vs. omnicient view, how do you know he IS going to change anything? who's to say he didnt plan this out at the beginning of time and is just going to stick to his plan?
And lastly, to lam: who's to say science and creationism cant co-exist? Who's to say he didnt use the laws of science to his advantage and begin creating with it? I'm Catholic, for example, but i still believe in evolution, i just believe it was God molding it out and stuff. And the only real current area of science that religion hinders is stem cell research, which could be viewed as wrong outside of religion too.