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Old 06-29-2008, 12:58 AM   #1
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All the Rage is meant for members to vent their anger but you can do that without excessive amounts of profanities. There are ways to express your anger without swearing. Again, once or twice will be let through but excessive anything becomes rather distasteful. Not just for kids but for adults too.
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Old 06-29-2008, 01:20 AM   #2
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All the Rage is meant for members to vent their anger but you can do that without excessive amounts of profanities. There are ways to express your anger without swearing. Again, once or twice will be let through but excessive anything becomes rather distasteful. Not just for kids but for adults too.
Why do you let it once or twice? Wouldn't it be better to not allow any swear words at all? That would not expose any swear words to kids.
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Old 06-29-2008, 01:34 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by moparisthebest View Post
Why do you let it once or twice? Wouldn't it be better to not allow any swear words at all? That would not expose any swear words to kids.
I can garuntee that kids these days have heard almost every swear word out there, but that's not why you should have the right to swear left and right.

What if some kid looks up to you on the forums? And when he sees you swearing like there's no tomorrow, what do you think he thinks is the cool thing to do? Swear like there's no tomorrow, just because you did.
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Old 06-29-2008, 02:08 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by Warning_Shot View Post
I can garuntee that kids these days have heard almost every swear word out there, but that's not why you should have the right to swear left and right.

What if some kid looks up to you on the forums? And when he sees you swearing like there's no tomorrow, what do you think he thinks is the cool thing to do? Swear like there's no tomorrow, just because you did.
I didn't say that I have the right to swear left and right. I only thought that the board was to let people release their anger, and the best way is to swear, but since that's not allowed then..

Why would they think that it's a cool thing to swear? Chances are that the kid already knows swear words so they wouldn't really care about seeing swear words would they? By saying that the kid is influenced by me then you're expressing the point that kids don't know what is good or bad and that they can't think for themselves..
And naw why would they look up to me? o.o it's the admins that they look up to.
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Old 06-29-2008, 02:26 AM   #5
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Why don't you think about yourself for a moment.

One day, you have a kid that's like, 4 or 5. Then he/she keeps on swearing here and there. Is it something a kid should learn? This may be All The Rage. But you can keep it at a lower paste, right? There ARE some kids that might be lower than age 10 here. Who knows. But that doesn't mean you have the right to swear even though you think that there AREN'T any. How would you like it if you are in a meeting, and someone keeps on swearing about it loudly with a excessive tone and never-ending amount of swears? Annoying, and people will lose respect for him, and will ban him from the meeting. The same goes here.
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Old 06-29-2008, 02:43 AM   #6
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Alright.

Here's a wikipedia link to swearing if you need it.

Surely we don't need to fetch a dictionary for you? Swearing = conventionally seen as offensive and insulting, hence we don't allow it. It's not even just for kids. I'm sure many other regular members sees it as pretty degrading - degrading for the forum as well as the swearer him/herself.

I hope the wikipedia link will help you find out more about swearing, and if that still doesn't satisfy you, google is your friend.

If all else fails, please proceed to PM an admin or mod about this, or ask about it more in Talk with the Mods, or make a thread in Site Suggestions and Feedback and tell us why you think swearing is allowed. Though I think that's pretty unnecessary because the chances of changing that is close to nil.


Edit: We allow it occasionally because we're not going to be that strict and remove every single swear word on the forums. But when it's used excessively like you did, we decided to remove it. Simple as that.

I will move the posts if we still continue to discuss this matter, as it's going completely off topic from the original post. But, I don't really see the need for it.

Now I'm sure you don't want your own thread to continue on with this matter. May I steer this back on topic for you?


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Originally Posted by moparisthebest View Post
Why do you let it once or twice? Wouldn't it be better to not allow any swear words at all? That would not expose any swear words to kids.
Just like in real life, the mods have warned you to tone it down. Simple as that, there's no if and or buts about it. They cannot prevent profanities 100% but they can and will lessen the amount of it on the forums. I'd like to think that the majority of the members on FF are mature enough to let one or two slide without going nuts about it (OMG YOU SWORE!!) but again, it is distasteful to see an excessive amount of foul language. And yes, it's a social thing and people will regard you will little respect.

Also, All the Rage does not mean you can swear. You can vent, but there are other ways of expressing anger. I've sworn before, I am definitely no saint. But you'll more than likely see me putting in symbols rather than the actual word. Leave it to the imagination.
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Old 06-29-2008, 02:59 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by Sinto View Post
Why don't you think about yourself for a moment.

One day, you have a kid that's like, 4 or 5. Then he/she keeps on swearing here and there. Is it something a kid should learn? This may be All The Rage. But you can keep it at a lower paste, right? There ARE some kids that might be lower than age 10 here. Who knows. But that doesn't mean you have the right to swear even though you think that there AREN'T any. How would you like it if you are in a meeting, and someone keeps on swearing about it loudly with a excessive tone and never-ending amount of swears? Annoying, and people will lose respect for him, and will ban him from the meeting. The same goes here.
Every kid in there will swear in their life. So it's a I-don't-care because they-will-swear. Okay why don't YOU think about the KIDS for a moment. Again you're saying that a 4 or 5 year old kid will get influenced and start to swear. Like I said, they know for themselves what to do and what not to do so, please, don't act like they need teaching all the time. Kids aren't pets nor toys. Well for a guy swearing at a meeting that will be pretty annoying. But I swore here and you can't hear any sound of it. You can choose to ignore it, and I'm not spamming multi threads on it. But you have no choice but to hear that guy's swearing >.> here you have a choice

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Just like in real life, the mods have warned you to tone it down. Simple as that, there's no if and or buts about it. They cannot prevent profanities 100% but they can and will lessen the amount of it on the forums. I'd like to think that the majority of the members on FF are mature enough to let one or two slide without going nuts about it (OMG YOU SWORE!!) but again, it is distasteful to see an excessive amount of foul language. And yes, it's a social thing and people will regard you will little respect.

Also, All the Rage does not mean you can swear. You can vent, but there are other ways of expressing anger. I've sworn before, I am definitely no saint. But you'll more than likely see me putting in symbols rather than the actual word. Leave it to the imagination.
I'm not complaining. I'm asking a simple question that is all. Then I'm expressing my opinions. If 1 or 2 swear words are allowed then what is all this "there are kids" for?

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Alright.

Here's a wikipedia link to swearing if you need it.

Surely we don't need to fetch a dictionary for you? Swearing = conventionally seen as offensive and insulting, hence we don't allow it. It's not even just for kids. I'm sure many other regular members sees it as pretty degrading - degrading for the forum as well as the swearer him/herself.

I hope the wikipedia link will help you find out more about swearing, and if that still doesn't satisfy you, google is your friend.

If all else fails, please proceed to PM an admin or mod about this, or ask about it more in Talk with the Mods, or make a thread in Site Suggestions and Feedback and tell us why you think swearing is allowed. Though I think that's pretty unnecessary because the chances of changing that is close to nil.


Edit: We allow it occasionally because we're not going to be that strict and remove every single swear word on the forums. But when it's used excessively like you did, we decided to remove it. Simple as that.

I will move the posts if we still continue to discuss this matter, as it's going completely off topic from the original post. But, I don't really see the need for it.

Now I'm sure you don't want your own thread to continue on with this matter. May I steer this back on topic for you?


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I'm not asking for the definition of swearing, thanks. The discussion is about the effect of swearing on kids (and people now) not about defining swearing. And I didn't offend or insult anybody when swearing. Sigh seeing as you don't like to take in people's opinions, go ahead and do whatever you want with this thread. I don't want any more c--- aswell.

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Old 06-29-2008, 05:07 AM   #9
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I'm not complaining. I'm asking a simple question that is all. Then I'm expressing my opinions. If 1 or 2 swear words are allowed then what is all this "there are kids" for?
That's just the forum being lenient...

if they ban 100% of all swearing then we'll have people jumping up an down going "OMG i cant even say what I want now? Is ONE swear word really gonna be bad blah blah blah blah"

We would appreciated it if there's 100% no swearing.. but if someone have to slip one or two then we let it slide...

1 or 2 swear word "is allowed" but "not appreciated"....

I'd say its a buffer zone.. a gray area where its neither correct or incorrect
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Old 06-29-2008, 06:46 AM   #10
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Humanity isn't perfect and pretty much everyone swears believe it or not.

I find that more kids tend to pick up swearing from tv programs,video games,and friends more than an online forums.

In the end,kids are gonna end up swearing anyways one way or another.Just look at society today...
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