Should I feel guilty? - Page 4

**Spirit** · 04-07-2008, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by MaxOff

To make a analogy:
lets say we have a person A. U know that person will be killed tomorrow. Would it be correct to kill A now? After all he would die tomorrow anyway.

While that analogy drives the whole point into the extreme, it makes one point clear: Just because someone else does/will act immoral, does not justify your actions. No matter what they are.

Okay, so person A is going to die tomorrow. If you kill them today, you are taking away that one extra day that they have to live. One more day to tell their spouse they love them, one more day to tell their kids they love them, one more day to feel the sun shine on their face. But, for your extreme comparison, lets say that person A knows they are going to die and it is going to be a very violent and painful death, let throw a person B and C into the mix also. Person B, is willing to end Person A's life in a very humane and non-painful way (this being the buyer of the +9 axe to use for their on because they really need it). Person C, could care less about person A and decides they will kill person A in the same violent way they were going to die tomorrow (this being the person that wants to buy the weapon and resell it for thier own profit). Person A is going to die no matter what and apparently person A is going to die one day sooner than planned. Which is better?

**Manzcar** · 04-07-2008, 04:12 PM

No one is getting killed here. I think that the person was selling their weapons cheap. A lot of high level weapons for 50s in the shop. I didn't think I was taking advatage of anyone.

First of all, it is a game. If you are playing chess and your opponent leaves a backdoor to a check mate open, do you not take advatage of it and get the win. You wouldn't tell your opponent that it was a bad move show him what his mistake could cost him and then let him do it over again.

In real life, that is different. One should take extra care to make sure that you treat everyone as you would want to be treated.

It is just a game.

tehfusion · 04-07-2008, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by lightningmystix

Would you really call it abuse?

If you didn't get it, someone else would have.
And the person selling it would have ended up with the same amount anyways.

Except that 'someone else' might have been somebody not selfish who would have done the right thing and returned it.

**Lady-Loki** · 04-07-2008, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by Manzcar

No one is getting killed here. I think that the person was selling their weapons cheap. A lot of high level weapons for 50s in the shop. I didn't think I was taking advatage of anyone.

First of all, it is a game. If you are playing chess and your opponent leaves a backdoor to a check mate open, do you not take advatage of it and get the win. You wouldn't tell your opponent that it was a bad move show him what his mistake could cost him and then let him do it over again.

In real life, that is different. One should take extra care to make sure that you treat everyone as you would want to be treated.

It is just a game.

ummmm . . . . do we assume from this that as the OP you have now resolved this question within yourself?

Originally Posted by tehfusion

Except that 'someone else' might have been somebody not selfish who would have done the right thing and returned it.

I'm sorry, life is full of "What ifs" - what if the next person was you, would you still leave it for the next person and what if the next person after you was the scammer who took Booyah's money and what if the next person was . . . If you can't lock the item into the shop to prevent the next person in a what if then buy the weapon.

oOAnubisOo · 04-07-2008, 04:31 PM

I'd bought it, Used it, and givin it to my fellow guild members after I'm done with it like I do all my stuff, even my +9 stuff. He/she may have intended to sell it for 1s, we don't know that he/she didn't. That person will learn from the mistake, if it was indeed a mistake, and get over it. Use it like you stole it and then give it to a player who will in turn use it. I myself have sold stuff way cheap like everyone else here, intending to help people out. That very well could have been the intention.

**Manzcar** · 04-07-2008, 04:38 PM

[QUOTE=Lady-Loki;121972]ummmm . . . . do we assume from this that as the OP you have now resolved this question within yourself?

I am resloved and I don't feel guilty. This has started a debate that has gone longer and harder than I actually expected.

A game is a game.

OHH and to help with those that disagree with me not feeling guilty, when I get to a level that I no longe need or want the axe, I am going to give it away with the stipulation that the axe can never be sold but must be handed down from Fighter to Fighter for the rest of the game.

Now that makes it interesting.

**Lady-Loki** · 04-07-2008, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Manzcar

OHH and to help with those that disagree with me not feeling guilty, when I get to a level that I no longe need or want the axe, I am going to give it away with the stipulation that the axe can never be sold but must be handed down from Fighter to Fighter for the rest of the game.

Now that makes it interesting.

LOL! My L28 fighter, Lady Danae, shall contact you shortly!

Oh, nvm, she is already a 3X - LOL!

**Manzcar** · 04-07-2008, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by Lady-Loki

LOL! My L28 fighter, Lady Danae, shall contact you shortly!

Oh, nvm, she is already a 3X - LOL!

Hey I got to get to use it first. Ohhh I guess I could let you borrow it while I wait to get to 30.

Knil · 04-07-2008, 04:44 PM

So I'm just jumping into conversation (which is probably not the smartest thing, but oh well) to give my 2 cents.

Guilt is something you should know you will feel at the time of decision. If it affects you, then talk to them at that time and let them know their mistake. If it doesn't, then carry on with your day. It's not really a question to ask, its just based on personal moral. If anything, you just started a pretty heated debate (which is an awesome read btw), and you will just end up going with your initial gut instinct.

Personally I wouldn't feel guilty because it's something we all do and have gone through at one point or another. Not to mention they will (hopefully) learn from their mistake when they notice a load of money not in their inventory, and be more careful when putting things up for sale next time. And they accidentally just helped out a lower level. If it happened to me, and I found out someone level 20 bought a nice green real cheap from me, I'd be happy I helped them out. Who knows, maybe fiesta karma will give you some amazing drop for selling it so underpriced...

**viasta** · 04-07-2008, 04:45 PM

no..why feel guilty when the seller made a mistake like that??