Low levels in KQ....

**O-mie** · 03-17-2008, 03:30 AM

yeah, I know lower fighters used to get yelled at pretty harshly back in the day for being in MD.

I think though a lot of the lower ones are just unsure of what to do, it might be their first time in there. When I did my first one I was accompanied by a handful of friends who were all level 57-59, so they had me under their wing, and I was still like, ZOMG WHAT WHAT EEEEE D:

So I can imagine how chaotic it all must seem for people going in their on their first time. xD Just one of those things ya gotta deal with I guess!

But yeah, it does bug me profoundly when people in KQ don't do crap, and just stand there, or are like, "I Don't wanna waste scrolls, wah"

**Hessah** · 03-17-2008, 03:37 AM

yeah well i think we were just unlucky to have about 7-8 fighters who are all "new"....

the thing was these fighters are not noob in a sense that they dunno wat to do or is stupid... (well apparently they were yelling orders and telling the tank wat to do when they cant do a thing... but i was too busy keeping ppl alive to see the chat)

they were just... not tankable!

I think if there were just one or two or 3 that couldnt do anything at MD.. i wouldnt hv wrote this... but hving 7-8 frustrated me~ i think i'll just put it down as being unlucky....

**Lady-Loki** · 03-17-2008, 04:20 AM

What always annoys me in MD is when we have a boss in a clearing and I'm healing from a vantage point on the side of the path forward so when the boss drops and the mobs spawn I'm close to the front of the pack getting on the path just to go around a curve and find ppl shroomed up on the trail just waiting! That just makes me so angry!!

**Loveless** · 03-17-2008, 06:06 AM

Originally Posted by Lady-Loki

What always annoys me in MD is when we have a boss in a clearing and I'm healing from a vantage point on the side of the path forward so when the boss drops and the mobs spawn I'm close to the front of the pack getting on the path just to go around a curve and find ppl shroomed up on the trail just waiting! That just makes me so angry!!

^ Ohh... this annoys me as well.

I know you don't want to die and lose scrolls or whatever but come on! D: Kind of makes you want to drag the mob trains towards them.

**Spirit** · 03-17-2008, 01:41 PM

My personal views - Yes low-levels are allowed in there, but I still do not think that they are ready. Maybe the idea behind it was to get just one or two low levels in with a good group to show them the ins and outs. Unfortunately, sometimes you get a whole bunch of low-levels.
However, standing around doing nothing is not the way to go about it. I know I talked Patches into going when he was under 50 and after the 1st one, he said that he had no business being in there. And even though I told him that even if he couldn't hit the MD he could do mob-control, he felt that he would be better to wait until he could add more. He had an understanding of how it worked and what ot do, so after he hit 50, he felt better about doing them.
The ones that stand around doing nothing annoys the hell out of me and the ones that are shroomed up way ahead of the group - nothing good and dam well that with me being a mage and getting a head start on everyone else, that they were there the whole time - really annoys the hell out of me. If you are too low-level to take hits from the MD, at least be there for mob-control or you could even taunt the MD when he casts fear on the MT. This at least saves the DDs and the clerics from pulling the agro and you will get a rez.

**Enraya** · 03-17-2008, 02:00 PM

Agreed with Spirit :3

If you're low leveled, fine. I mean, everyone has to start out somewhere, right?
A low level takes up another space ... but that space can be well used. If you can't hit a mob, use an aim/power scroll. Those are the first things in a scroll produc that you can make, and just buff yourself up with one of those (and maybe more). So, you can't always call that low level a waste of space.

But what really is a waste of space is when people either shroom up or ... just stand there. Doing nothing (or leeching). That is a waste of space. You're in the KQ; it's understandable if you have to afk for a few minutes (we all have lives), but if you're purposely doing nothing, what's the point? A KQ is about teamwork; if you're soloing, go ahead and stand around and do nothing, but let down an entire KQ? >O<

**Lilian** · 03-17-2008, 03:55 PM

...I remember back when this exact same issue was posted up by lafieru ages ago, and I was practically the only one who was supporting him then. :P

anyways, now that I've pretty much decided I won't grind anymore, I suppose I could do my part to help out the KQ'ers... it just so happens that lv60 is the MAX in MD. :3

**Lady-Loki** · 03-17-2008, 03:58 PM

Yep yep - and I see jackasses who do the ctrl^Z thing and just do a slow walk through the place while never attacking MD! That ticks me coz even though I can't do lots of damage, if I am in a group with plenty of clerics and I'm not spamming heals I will run up to MD & hit my bash & skip and then run back until cool down and repeat that over & over. Maybe I can't take MD down myself, but if I can knock 300 - 900 off him (depending on if I get some crits), even that little bit helps. And yet there are fighter class walking like prima dona's on a beauty walk prissing around adjusting their underwear!