Deity Existence

[Vasu]

There IS proof, but once again, you would claim that it's false, and cooked up by the Church. You'd claim it was all just lies. i tried to show proof earlier in the forum (i.e. the incorruptibility) and Hrae dismissed it as nothing more as wax dolls. He has no proof of them being wax, but he insists that it's just a lie cooked up by the church. It gives the feeling that no matter what proof i give you, you'll just deny its credibility with no real credibility of your own.

But the "proofs" are so distant and don't really correlate.

It goes like this:

1. A bunch of saints died and didn't decompose.
2. Therefore god exists, and is benevolent, and is omnipotent, and omniscient, and x and y and whatnot.

However, I dont see how it is that a being who sent himself to be tortured and killed in one of the most horrible ways imaginable to free US is Malevolent.

Because he is the same person who personally killed all the firstborn of people who did not even do wrong, and has ordered all kinds of rape and pillage, while he could have avoided that. Coming to the point, even the death of Jesus could have been avoided. He just seems like a bloodthirsty maniac to me.

And you dont really have faith in that; you're using that as an example to how you feel religion is ridiculous. However, you could take that, and say that your faith in the invisible pink unicorn gods/goddesses is nothing more than your soul making an attempt to call out to God, and that he sees and accepts that.

Way to miss the point. The point is that just because you have faith in something doesn't mean it's true. And I could take your faith in god's existence and say that it is your soul calling out to the FSM.

Talking about seeing and accepting that, why didn't he "see and accept" the "callings of the soul" of all the people murdered in the OT who didn't worship him?