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View Poll Results: Is there a God?
There are many gods. 2 3.17%
There is one impersonal god. 2 3.17%
There is one personal god 13 20.63%
There is/are no god(s) 14 22.22%
There may be a god/gods, but so far there is no proof of their existence. 32 50.79%
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Old 04-13-2009, 05:22 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Manzcar View Post
I think my entire point is getting lost again as feared.

No one can prove that God does not exists. I state that the Bible shows proof of God's existence.

Okay. The Bible states that god is omnipotent and omniscient. I have just proved that they are incompatible. There'a a discrepancy right there.

Originally Posted by Manzcar View Post
Why does it matter if I believe. If you really believe that everyone is entitled to their own beliefs what use is this thread.
No. I do not believe that everybody is entitled to their own beliefs. Was Hitler entitled to his view that Jews were an inferior race? Are racists entitled to their view that blacks are inferior?

Actually, come to think of it, everybody is entitled to their own beliefs as long as they keep it to their own backyard. If Hitler hated Jews in his mind but never did anything about it, I would be perfectly fine with it. But religion constantly enters, influences and juggles with state policy which influences everyone. This is completely unacceptable. I am simply asking the reason for your beliefs, and so far, I have not seen an explanation which satisfies me.

Originally Posted by Manzcar View Post
I contend that this thread was not meant for a discussion, but to state that there is no God and if you dare say there is then you have to give proof beyond a shadow of a doubt.

But no one has to prove that God does not exist.
Once again, this thread was made to see the reasons for the beliefs of both sides.



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Originally Posted by Jikanu View Post
i'll restate what i said earlier: Original sin is seperate from personal sin. once again:

"Roman Catholic teaching regards original sin as the general condition of sinfulness (lack of holiness) into which human beings are born, distinct from the actual sins that a person commits. It explicitly states that original sin does not have the character of a personal fault in any of Adam's descendants.[7]" -Wikipedia.

There is still a difference between me and Adam. Why am I not given a chance to be holy at birth?

Originally Posted by Jikanu View Post
As for the stone, i guess it would be impossible since nothing can overpower God, not even his own creation.

So there is something god cannot do?

Originally Posted by Jikanu View Post
And yes, he could, but his decisions are always right the first time since he's all knowing and all wise, therefore his first decision is right.

For the last time, how "could" he? If he can, or could, then he is not all knowing. If he can't or couldn't then he is not all powerful.
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