For North America?

**Yosei** · 11-04-2007, 05:11 AM

Well I just got done with a quick argument with some guy on the Outspark forums on whether Outsparks Fiesta is only for North America or not. He posted links to the gamengame site and the interview with Daniel Chang as evidence supporting himself.
You don't have to read the stuff below, I just posted it for the curious, but what do you guys think? Is this Fiesta for North America only or no?

Me:
Outsparks version is global, so far. No where does it say it is only for U.S, Canada, and Mexico, except for on gamengame. But that ad was made by gamenagame, they did that because they blocked North American IPs. So the ad's kind of like a "You're not allowed on this one so go to this one, this is for you", when really, Outspark is more global than gamengame.
Also, I hear gamengame only does betas. I'm sure its not that they can't play a Fiesta, its the fact all of their hard work is gone.

Him:
did you even take a look at the very first link?

it clearly says for NA player.

it took me 1 secound to google that when this all first happend.
ill find more if need be proving this is for Na players if i must but that alone is enough if you ask me

Me:
Afew quotes from the interview...

"Unlike many other MMORPGs available in western markets, Fiesta will always be free to download and enjoy."
Western doesn't just refer to "North America".

"Outspark wanted to bring it to an English speaking audience."
Still didn't say North America.

"Accordingly we're grateful to Daniel Chang of regional distributor Outspark for taking time to fill us in on the English-language version of developer Ons On Soft's game, which you can check out now in open beta."
...Again, didn't say North America.

"The most important ingredient in the evolution and planning of a game is the player community. Fiesta has only been available to English-speaking players for a short time, but we've already seen several fansites pop up, and a lot of player activity in and around the game, from guild sites to user-generated movies posted on video sharing sites like YouTube."
Again.. no North America.

Him:
im gonna assume your grasp on english is bad.
and point out what you missed
Quote:
"Unlike many other MMORPGs available in western markets, Fiesta will always be free to download and enjoy."
meaning its free unlike most wester market games that are not.

Quote:
"Outspark wanted to bring it to an English speaking audience."
yeah i think china when you say english speaking audience./sarcasam

take your head from your butt for just one secound and accept it.

this game was ment for NA players. your lame attempt to prove me wrong is backed in ZERO Fact.

where as that artical supports me and so does the IP ban
and gamengames website as well.

Me:
Okay so... Chinese people can't speak English? Only North Americans speak English? Thats basically what you're saying.
For all you may know, I might live in South America.

Him:
why are you still trying to argue this.

when people say english speaking they think america or euope not china korea or japan.

stop trying to be ingnorante.

Me:
I'm not arguing, have I thrown an insult at you? You just called me ignorant, thats how its spelled if you're wondering. You apparently lack culture. When I think of "english speakers" I think of people that speak English, I don't think about America.
My goal that I set was to prove that this version of the game isn't just for North America. But you apparently can't accept that North Americans and select Europeans aren't the only people who speak English.

Afew people requested I keep going..

Me:
Half of the people on this game aren't American. I have friends in the Phillipines, Singapore, Germany, Australia, New Zealand, Brazil, and more.

If Outspark's Fiesta turned into a North American only game, they would lose A LOT. Quite frankly, if half of my friends couldn't play, I'd end up losing interest too. Its the players that make the game for me.

I'm bored of this and this is my last message to ThreeC, or is it?

This is an intelligent discussion, not a "everyone shut up now because ThreeC is right and everyone is wrong" thread. You may have ran out of things to say, you may be ranting your butt off, I don't know. But that is my opinion and I'm sticking to it. I love the world and its people, I love the fact that I'm playing a game with people from all cultures, and I hope it stays that way.
I was just supporting my opinion and thoughts on Fiesta not being just for North America.

And when you picture Europe as an English speaking continent, which countries do you picture? Because very few countries in Europe have English as their native language.

I'm a friendly person, but I will not back down in an argument or debate.

Lackluster · 11-04-2007, 05:20 AM

I think it is for North America.... And I suppose Europeans until they get their own version.

**Yosei** · 11-04-2007, 05:26 AM

Half of us on here are Australian.

Lackluster · 11-04-2007, 05:32 AM

Aussies can go to the Euro version.

MagesRequiem · 11-04-2007, 05:33 AM

Actually, it is intended for North America. I don't mind people from other countries playing it for right now unless they have or get their own version. Once they do, I expect them to be gone. The language barrier is the cause of a lot of problems in the game. During Kingdom Quests, during parties, etc. Don't get me wrong, I have several foreign friends but only a few compared to the majority of friends I have living in North America. If I had to lose them just so this game would improve, then so be it. I'll miss them but there are other ways of contacting them. And ThreeC, ugh, that guy is just... well... you can already tell just by reading the stuff he said.

**Hessah** · 11-04-2007, 05:34 AM

Well... sounds like this guy is one of those 15% americans that couldnt find america on the world map coz he thinks there's only 1 island in teh world.. and that's America...

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why are you still trying to argue this.

when people say english speaking they think america or euope not china korea or japan.

stop trying to be ingnorante.

Looks who's trying to be ignorant!! most of europe doesnt speak english (or that's not their main language), and we've got Singapore, Australia, New Zealand that speaks english.. just coz we're 15 hrs ahead doesnt mean we dont exist... but yeah u pointed that out anyway XD but he definitely needs a geography lesson

as for whether fiesta is for NA... well when they blocked the China IP it said that it's for NA.. but absolutely no where else says wat country its for... (i even had trouble finding where it's based... )

so i think it's more for the world less the asia countries (coz supposingly they've got their own fiesta)

**Yosei** · 11-04-2007, 05:35 AM

This entire site would be split in half.

Lackluster · 11-04-2007, 05:41 AM

The ingame time is PST too...just on a 24 hour clock.

**Hessah** · 11-04-2007, 05:46 AM

well just coz they're based in NA.. it doesnt mean its not for the rest of the world. Not specifically for fiesta but over all for other international companies.. they hv to pick a headquarter....

Zucchini · 11-04-2007, 05:47 AM

NOOOOOO. FOEREIGN COUNTRIES IP CANNOT BE BANNED. !!! LOL. mainly because i'm from foreign country myself.
TT. and i totally agree with Hessah and Yosei. Anyway, it should be a profit for outspark if they let asian countries play. Asia is the LARGEST continent in the world. Okay, maybe that wouldn't mean there will be more asian ppl playing than americans, BUT STILL.
Anyway, MMORPGs should be global to attract more ppl. What's the fun if it's restricted and less ppl can play?? >.>