All these failing people!!!! - Page 2

**Hessah** · 01-01-2009, 08:56 PM

Yeah, lower level KQs are especially ones where people shouldnt quit, coz all you really need is 1 good tank (doesnt even have to be a fighter.. someone with endure buff is probably good enough) and a cleric.. and you should be flying threw Slime / Mara / Gold Hill with only 3 people...

There's records of people SOLOING mara, so why the heck are people quitting so early for!

In the honeying I was in, 3 of the 10 people were AFK to start off with... so that's why people suicided... but still... i just hate it when someone goes "I'm getting out this is crap" and with that comment it usually drags another 3-4 people out of the KQ... its so unfair...

And that MD KQ... Grrrr we were doing so well!!! If only we've got an extra 2-3 mins or 1 extra DDer... we would've won it!!

Miriamele · 01-01-2009, 09:32 PM

MD is entirely possible with one good tank, one backup tank (for fear), and two good clerics. You don't even have to necessarily have them be DDers. I was in a situation where I was stuck with a bunch of squishy fighters who camped out for the duration of MD and one decent one that actually scrolled up. It was really only us two even damaging MD but I used vit with a 1h, tanked, and won with the two clerics and backup tank.

Honeying is the only KQ where every person really counts. I always hated joining honeying to see a bunch of lvl 40-42 fighters and maybe one cleric. Never suicided out though.

I've beaten most other lower KQs with 6 or so people in them. My alt cleric is full end and can clank, and my alt fighter is DD built with end equips. I try to be flexible.

Dunno, I guess I just don't see suiciding too often. I pick my KQs carefully, and I'm not about to join some KQ that is not even halfway full and will close soon. It just bothers me more that some join and then go afk for an extended period without saying anything, or those that are too busy talking in chat to do their jobs.

**Hessah** · 01-01-2009, 09:53 PM

Yeah i think we wasted 5 mins trying to get Robo out... we didn't have a 2nd tank.. but we had some good clerics.. so when the tank got feared.. I (a lvl 46 archer) would drag MD back next to the wall (away from the clerics)... dies... then by then the tank is over with his fear and tank MD again..

we only had that fighter, my archer and another mage doing dmg.. (and 1 fighter that just die over and over and over and over and over again... he was useless)

Maybe I've gotta be more careful with which KQ i join... I have joined a KKP with only 6 people in it LOL! And we won... but i've also been in a failed KKP where we had 15 people

I guess it really depends on the people and how alert they are.. if you see MD run.. MOVE... if you see KKP on the loose.. MOVE... the problem is some useless people sit out coz they cant do anything and they add burdle to the group coz they dont pay attention...

**Zwivix** · 01-01-2009, 09:54 PM

I dont understand why people give up too soon...once in KKP everyone except 5 ppl quit just because our only DD were archers. If an archer can tank KKP with 5 ppl and win i think anything is possible.

**Hraesvelg** · 01-01-2009, 10:01 PM

Yep. There are way too many people that just run at the thought that something may not be ideal. Instead of making a fail a possibility, they make it a certainty. It's sad, really. No one wants to try any more.

Miriamele · 01-01-2009, 10:08 PM

What bugs me are the fighters that run in, get pwned by MD's jump and/or fire, and demand a rez... 10 times or more. I wish clerics would just make them use up their hearts. They have to learn to scroll up or stay back. I'd rather have a fighter stay back than run in and die while I'm tanking or healing the tank.

Oh, MD is also doable with a clank and a good DDer. I haven't had this happen because I tanked pretty much all the MDs I did, but I've heard stories.

KKP is easy. At the end, you only need someone to tank and some mob control.

**Hessah** · 01-01-2009, 10:14 PM

Yeah I dunno wat happened in that KKP.. oh wait I remember... the tank went to the bathroom

right in the middle of it.. and KKP roam and killed most of the clerics... and he dared to come back and said "I just went to the bathroom and come back to this?" seriously =.="

Yeah i wish those squishy fighters would just stay back and help MC... but they dont.. they either run in and die.. or sit out and shroom... no in between for helping to get he mobs off other people... MAKE URSELF USEFUL... but i think that's too much to ask for people with brains the size of a pea.

I've seen many other classes tanking bosses, (hell even my level 51 mage can help co-tank MD, i get blown away if it jumps / fire too quickly but I can be a 2nd tank as last resort) so yeah.. I think tank =/= fighters most time..

Shader · 01-01-2009, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by Hessah

Yeah, lower level KQs are especially ones where people shouldnt quit, coz all you really need is 1 good tank (doesnt even have to be a fighter.. someone with endure buff is probably good enough) and a cleric.. and you should be flying threw Slime / Mara / Gold Hill with only 3 people...

There's records of people SOLOING mara, so why the heck are people quitting so early for!

In the honeying I was in, 3 of the 10 people were AFK to start off with... so that's why people suicided... but still... i just hate it when someone goes "I'm getting out this is crap" and with that comment it usually drags another 3-4 people out of the KQ... its so unfair...

And that MD KQ... Grrrr we were doing so well!!! If only we've got an extra 2-3 mins or 1 extra DDer... we would've won it!!

I once soloed Mara on my fighter...well...sorta. I never died once, I just ran out of time. T.T Was very sad. I got a lot of exp though.

Miriamele · 01-01-2009, 10:56 PM

Actually, most of the tanks I see are indeed fighters, but I don't think tank is automatically synonymous with fighter. I've seen some excellent clanks, tarchers, and even a rare good mank or two. It just sucks when fighters won't step up to the plate and tank when some of them can do it better than any other standing toon in a KQ.

Lol, in a GH, the fighters wouldn't mock and I ended up clanking a lot. I asked them why they wouldn't and they said "because my dmg makes me hold aggro". Seconds later, I was clanking because they were too dim-witted to figure out that I drew more aggro than they did. Ugh. I even had to clank the robber boss too. And they couldn't get aggro back from me, even if they tried kicking, haha.

Edit: Just had a really bad KKP experience. I was experiencing major lag due to all the AoE animations and my client would hang for several seconds (10-20). I asked if anybody else would tank, since I was having problems. And nobody else would. There were other fighters there but not one of them stepped up to tank. And I'm a lvl 70 fighter with a 60 shield, I mean, come on -_-. There's gotta be someone out there who could do it better than me. We actually did end up winning and I did receive my spoils, but I burned two sets of scrolls in the process...

JokerX · 01-02-2009, 02:47 AM

Ive checked other servers recently...I think Epith is the worst at KQs..(im always there though to save the day)Teva isnt bad,Bijou is good,and the other i think is second worst. *and no affense to those in Epith or the other server).(my main server is epith;and im a fighter not a tanker but it seems i always end up being the tank)