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There are many gods.
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There is one impersonal god.
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There is one personal god
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There may be a god/gods, but so far there is no proof of their existence.
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05-25-2009, 06:24 PM
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Lizardman
In-Game Name: Jikanu
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Free Will =/= Impersonal.
He lets us make choices, but, back then at least, he would intervene and bless those who were fair, and just.
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05-25-2009, 06:43 PM
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Malingerer
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Can you distinguish between the two please?
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05-25-2009, 07:05 PM
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Lizardman
In-Game Name: Jikanu
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Free will means we make choices for ourselves. Being impersonal means he neither supports, nor decries the decisions, and will favor neither side, therefore not giving either side his blessing.
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05-25-2009, 07:22 PM
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So if we have free will, and god intervening does not go against free will, why isn't the evil in the world today being stopped by him?
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05-25-2009, 07:44 PM
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Lizardman
In-Game Name: Jikanu
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Perhaps after the NT he/she stopped intervening without us asking first. im not sure *Shrugs*
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05-26-2009, 01:36 AM
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Goblin Swordman
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I have to admit I stopped reading this thread because it's said the same thing in different ways over and over.
I came across this nice review, thought of making a new thread but well, it fits much more nicely here:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/...ut-design.html
Read the comments that follow. I always find them fun and informative, more or less extending the scope of the article they correspond to.
And for those who don't have the motivation to read, the nice review is about a book that discusses how life exists without the need for a "designer".
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05-26-2009, 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Jikanu
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Perhaps after the NT he/she stopped intervening without us asking first. im not sure *Shrugs*
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So you could say he's become impersonal?
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05-26-2009, 06:17 PM
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Lizardman
In-Game Name: Jikanu
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No, im saying perhaps he wants us to come to him. Perhaps he's always wanted that. Im not sure, i havent really studied the bible heavily. Books i've read include most of maccabees, all of genesis, some of exodus, all of revelations, all of acts, and a bit of all the gospels.
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05-27-2009, 06:24 AM
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So if I was to pray sincerely for world peace, he would give it?
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05-27-2009, 05:10 PM
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Blaaaaaah 2 u 2
In-Game Name: Hraesvelg
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You should ask all of the religious amputees how well prayer works.
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