Deity Existence - Page 59

**Vasu** · 05-25-2009, 05:26 AM

Originally Posted by Jikanu

No, i meant that God made a promise to abraham that his decendents would be numerous, and so he had to protect the Jews. Besides, they're the only ones who had acctually ever listened to him, at the time.

Also, i havent done too much research on that part of the topic. i'll check it out if i get the time.

WHATEVER god had promised, WHATEVER he set out to do could have been done without bloodshed unless it was a promise to kill someone (which also proves my point BTW). There isn't really much research required.

Originally Posted by Jikanu

i THINK i read something saying that a doctor was allowed to check... im not entirely sure if i read it right, or if the source was reliable though. i'll check it out, though.

Yeah, the only reason I asked is because for some reason dead bodies are considered sacred by many religions.

Jikanu · 05-25-2009, 03:24 PM

do any of those ones not decompose? o_o

And the only thing God did was assist his people in battle when others enslaved and attacked him. Sometimes revolution was required, back then. I.e. Maccabees.

**Vasu** · 05-25-2009, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by Jikanu

do any of those ones not decompose? o_o

The fact that these did not decompose makes it even more interesting and is a reason why the cause should be researched. However the general attitude I would expect is that the bodies are sacred and not to be disturbed or whatever.

Originally Posted by Jikanu

And the only thing God did was assist his people in battle when others enslaved and attacked him. Sometimes revolution was required, back then. I.e. Maccabees.

He could have prevented ALL wars, even those initiated by others.

Jikanu · 05-25-2009, 04:16 PM

Oh, i thought you meant like, dead bodies of important people in different religions; but yeah, i agree that it should be researched.

And dont forget, he did give us free will. He tried to tell us right from wrong, but we didnt listen to what he said, and chose instead to begin wars. Isreal listened to him, so they were, at the time, his chosen people.

**Vasu** · 05-25-2009, 04:33 PM

So basically those who listened to him were "his people" and the rest could f*** off?

Jikanu · 05-25-2009, 05:14 PM

No, it wasnt that. everyone else just closed their heart to him and attacked others unprovoked at random. Then again, im not a theologist, i dont know the exact doctrine of the church on that.

**Hraesvelg** · 05-25-2009, 05:15 PM

No worries. The original theologians made it up as they went along, too.

**Vasu** · 05-25-2009, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by Jikanu

No, it wasnt that. everyone else just closed their heart to him and attacked others unprovoked at random. Then again, im not a theologist, i dont know the exact doctrine of the church on that.

God is omniscient. He saw that most would not "open their hearts" to him.

God is omnipotent. He could have prevented them from beginning the wars which hurt "his people".

Jikanu · 05-25-2009, 05:46 PM

Free Will.

**Vasu** · 05-25-2009, 06:14 PM

If he truly gave them free will, then he shouldn't even have intervened when they imprisoned the Israelites, and killed them. They would just repent for it in the afterlife.