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[Sero]

I created this thread to continue my other thread, though not addressed to the person I mentioned of in the 1st post but to the last post. Since it was closed, I couldn't anymore reply and answer to what has been said on the last post. Here goes~

"There is a reason why you can't view who repped you. People have the right to remain anonymous. People can +rep others anonymously for whatever reason, and similarly, people can -rep others anonymously."

^ true.

"Calling people cowards and pathetic because they are using their right to remain anonymous isn't very considerate and doesn't make yourself look any better."

Erm, lemme correct that. I called the person that, not because they used their right to remain anonymous. Way off. But, because of how he/she did what he/she did. Though it is a small thing, and obviously doesn't concern some other people, that's why it remains in MoS. "Doesn't make yourself look any better" <---you had to mention that? What were you thinking? I know that already ^^ and my thread never had that intention lol.

"If you wish to use the reputation system in a correct way and put it in its proper use (which seems to be rarely done nowadays when it comes to dereps), maybe you should consider why you have received the de-reps in the first place, rather than calling out to be people and talking down to them."

I already tried to consider it, but it's not worth considering IMO, which is why I brought it up. And~

"calling out to be people"

^ huh? o.o

"If, for whatever reason, you decide that the dereps you received are not reasonable/justified, then simply ignore it since it does not matter to you."

Yes, I ignored the de-rep. I was addressing to the person him/herself, using the de-rep just to show and justify what I was talking about.

"This thread is a plain flame bait, so I am closing it. Any objections or concerns with your reputations, take the matter to Talk with the Mods/PM to the mods, rather than publicly calling out and embarrassing other members."

^ sure. And embarrassing? Sorry then for embarrassing you in front of the FF community then, anonymous

Any replies? /=)

[Belaslav]

I lolled at Luna's rep.

[Ivramire]

PM vs. Rep. Message


You want to get something across that you think was good/bad about someone but wasn't really a big deal -OR- not really having a problem with the other person's posts except a specific one = Rep. Message.

Rep. system was neutered anyway, so rep goes up and down only by a few points even from people with big reputations. Don't care about rep at all and ignore that side of it is an option, noone would have noticed anyway because the bar's still green + handy option of hiding it whenever in User-options.

Also, because this is a relatively small community you're gonna be butting heads whether you like it or not if things get awkweird. Rep. message bypasses a lot of drama (unless you make a thread about it)

"calling out to be people"

^ huh? o.o

Think that's a typo that's supposed to be "the"

Yes, I ignored the de-rep. I was addressing to the person him/herself, using the de-rep just to show and justify what I was talking about.

That...doesn't make sense. If the whole de-rep was ignored, then what's the thread I just posted this reply in o__o!!!! If the intention of the repper was to stir-up a reaction, well they just got that. Consider just which message was repped and what was written in the message.

[Sero]

I lolled at Luna's rep.

Which one o.o

[Blaaaaaaaah]

Erm, lemme correct that. I called the person that, not because they used their right to remain anonymous. Way off. But, because of how he/she did what he/she did.

I believe you're calling the person a coward because the way they commented and de-repped you anonymously, and not coming up to you and talk to you in person. What is the difference? You called them a coward because they won't show their identity:

Then why hide your identity and do it through giving reputation?

"Doesn't make yourself look any better" <---you had to mention that? What were you thinking? I know that already ^^ and my thread never had that intention lol.

I don't quite understand that. You know it, but you still went ahead and made the thread knowing that you won't look any better than the person you're calling a coward?

I already tried to consider it, but it's not worth considering IMO, which is why I brought it up.

I don't understand this either. If it's not worth considering, it's worth the effort to make a thread about it and let everyone know? Please explain as I don't quite get the logic.

^ huh? o.o

Calling out to people as in, making a thread and "daring them to come out and speak up". It's like calling out to the crowd and trying to pick a fight.

Yes, I ignored the de-rep. I was addressing to the person him/herself, using the de-rep just to show and justify what I was talking about.

Sorry I don't quite understand this either. In the thread, you have talked down on the person. The reason you have done so is because they derepped you anonymously. The core problem is caused by the derep itself, correct? Do correct me if I am wrong.

And embarrassing? Sorry then for embarrassing you in front of the FF community then, anonymous

Perhaps I had not chosen the right word and shouldn't have used the word "embarrass". Nevertheless, I rather you not apologise than to do it with such sarcasm and lack of sincerity. Don't tell me you were trying, please.

I assume there will be posts made as I type this.

Edit:

@lvramire's post: QFT.

[Yosei]

No offense, but really, if you didn't care... you wouldn't bring this up. I mean, there's nothing wrong with you caring, you're concerned with what people on the forums think of you obviously, but remember, its the internet. I've gotten plenty of de-reps before, not once have I said anything about it.

I found it disrespectful to call out the people who de-repped you because its meant to be anonymous, not only to you, but to the community. Sometimes people want to express an opinion on your posts without making it public, thus avoiding drama.

[Sero]

I believe you're calling the person a coward because the way they commented and de-repped you anonymously, and not coming up to you and talk to you in person.

Coward for giving the comment through a de-rep, yes that's it I guess

Pathetic for writing what was written in the comment, and yeah the reason was stated in my first thread~

Your last post in my first thread said "Calling people cowards and pathetic for using their right...-"

So just wanted to separate those 2 adjectives and their causes of being given.

I don't quite understand that. You know it, but you still went ahead and made the thread knowing that you won't look any better than the person you're calling a coward?

This isn't about looking any better than anyone o.O
Sorry if you thought I'm one of those people who make flame baits (or what do you call those threads again?) and those kinds of threads just to make myself look better and make my reputation better. Cause I'm not. Because as I said, it's not like my reputation here is exactly the same as my reputation IG and IRL. So even if you'd think of me as Satan's little brother, I would care less. You guys dunno me IRL.
I may have called the person pathetic/coward, but that has exactly no connection to me making myself look better. But if that's how you guys look at it as, then I understand. Hope that matter is cleared up.

I don't understand this either. If it's not worth considering, it's worth the effort to make a thread about it and let everyone know? Please explain as I don't quite get the logic.

"maybe you should consider why you received the de-reps"
When I said it's not worth considering, I meant it wasn't worth considering righteous or true. I was replying to this ^
That's why I made it.

Calling out to people as in, making a thread and "daring them to come out and speak up". It's like calling out to the crowd and trying to pick a fight.

Oh k, thought it wasn't a typo and you meant something else.

Sorry I don't quite understand this either. In the thread, you have talked down on the person. The reason you have done so is because they derepped you anonymously. The core problem is caused by the derep itself, correct? Do correct me if I am wrong.

I dun think you're wrong o.O Ofcourse the whole thing was caused by the de-rep... What else could possibly be it?
"Say what you wanna say to me directly, and if you comment about how I was on that particular thread, read all the pages first before you're sure in giving the comment."
^ quote from what I said on my last thread (not the exact words but more or less the same, I'll recheck)

Perhaps I had not chosen the right word and shouldn't have used the word "embarrass". Nevertheless, I rather you not apologise than to do it with such sarcasm and lack of sincerity. Don't tell me you were trying, please.

^ Hm? LOL. No intentions whatsoever.

I assume there will be posts made as I type this.

Yeah lol

/checking for typos, grammatical errors and other mistakes on this post atm

edit:k done i guess

[Sero]

No offense, but really, if you didn't care... you wouldn't bring this up.

I brought this up because I wanted to address to the person who did the de-rep.

What I don't care about is my FF reputation.

My concern is the act, not the effect.

you're concerned with what people on the forums think of you obviously, but remember, its the internet. I've gotten plenty of de-reps before, not once have I said anything about it.

Do I have to repeat what I keep saying? People in the forums can think of me as anything they want. Cause in forums is way different from IG and IRL.

And yes I know it's the internet. That's why I dun care about what people think of me as, unlike IG and IRL where my real self is what I present to people. Though I do care about what they'd say if I'd have anything to comment back to what they do say.

I found it disrespectful to call out the people who de-repped you because its meant to be anonymous, not only to you, but to the community. Sometimes people want to express an opinion on your posts without making it public, thus avoiding drama.

person*

The only other time I made a thread cause of de-reps was when Omies was still around, cause yeah. That one was stupid as well XD

In the SS in my first thread, it may have shown 2 de-reps but I meant only the last one. The one that says "I don't strip -.-" is out of this, cause I know Luna would give me that one lol

And if that person wanted to express an opinion on a post of mine in the thread "Serodin" without making it public, why not do it through a PM? That way I could have reacted to him pleasantly, I'd know who he is, take his comment even at the least consideration I'd take at, and communicate back, saying what I wanted to say about it ("Look at my other posts in the thread, that would be a good feedback to your comment.")

Cause a PM ain't public, aye?

If he'd known better, he would've delivered the comment through a PM, cause if he delivered it through a de-rep which he did, he'd figure out that I'd wanna reply to it, but I can't give a straight reply since he is anonymous, which would result to me provoking him in public.

Generally my concept on this particular matter is~

If he would've PMed me the comment, the whole thing wouldn't have been exposed to the public, and I could have replied/reacted in a proper manner.

If he de-repped me, I would've made a thread provoking him in order to know who he is, resulting to me being able to reply to his comment, plus this whole thing being shown to the public thus creating a little mess and havoc.

^ out of those 2, the 2nd thing is what happened.

Now, if you were in my place, his/her place or even in the admins' place, which of the 2 situations would you rather prefer?

Yes, generally it would be impolite and disrespectful to provoke or even just call out the anonymous person who gave a + or - rep. But it all would depend on the comment, if it's worth replying to, if it's worth pondering about. Only the comment recipient can judge on whether or not the comment WOULD BE worth replying to or not since he is the one taking it, but it'd depend on his/her sincerity on taking it.

EDIT~Bedtime for me now, it's midnight. Talk to you people again in 7 hours.

[Lady-Loki]

The rep system is anonymous to allow comment without confrontation. Use the comments made to consider if there is any way you can improve on how and what you post.

I figured out a long time ago that you are not serious in the majority (if not all) of your posts, so for the most part I read over yours as just a side dish of humor added to the serious family dinner. Everyone may not have come to accept you as just that.

Perhaps a better option may have been to make a post like:

Title: I’m Just Not Too Serious

Body: Someone de-repped me stating only “take some things seriously =/”.

Let me explain please, real life is already way too serious and school is way too serious. And I realize when I become an adult a real life job will be way too serious. Considering all this part of life that is way too serious I find the forums to be the place I can cut up and have fun and be as far from serious as possible. So, please, just know and understand that I am just not going to be serious about stuff on these forums except on some rare occasion when a thread might speak to a particularly serious part of my brain.

I think the majority of the people on these forums know this about me, but based on your rep comment I assume you don’t so I thought I would enlighten you so that you can chuckle at my posts rather than letting them be an annoyance to you.

See? A win/win solution.

And BTW, yeah, this one is one of my serious posts. kkthx and back to my silliness

[Ivramire]

Something I forgot to put-


De-rep = trifling. something you don't worry about once it's sent and gone. Person reads the de-rep message and forgets about it the next day. No one to message back to, no animosity, no further side-effects, no messages to delete, nothing. Since it's already established that you don't care about rep on forums, that should have been the end of it, but...it's obviously not.