[Jikanu]

1. I'd ask you to clarify what you meant, particularly regarding the first point as it doesn't seem to address my post. But I'm not going to bother.


2. Your mileage may vary. Because it certainly doesn't make any sense to me. What kind of scenario is it that this is the only feasible explanation?


To argue the point anyway, Jesus wasn't put to death by the collective Jewish-community, he was supposedly set-up by the Jewish Council, exactly for what they saw to be him claiming to be the Messiah. From my understanding of it, they seeded the crowd with their supporters so that when it came to the vote between Barabas (sp?) and Jesus, the cries for Jesus came out louder. A possible explanation, one that even bypasses their ''attitude-shift.''


3.''He had some kind of reason for believing he was the messiah, and was incorrect''


Still doesn't change the aspect that he could have been incorrect or been doing it for any other reason.


4. You didn't address my last point.

Your number 4 was my number one... they were probably not ALL Middle to lower class or middle aged, but the majority certainly were, and therefore were still in the same boat as the other commoners who opposed him.

My Point was that he wouldnt have claimed to be the Messiah unless he was completely sure. The Bible, if it's to be taken as an accurate historical document, not just a theological one, shows us that he was an intelligent man, philosophically at least. And any reasonable religious man wouldnt put his or anyone else's soul at risk unless he was either 1. Greedy (disproved by his facing death and not giving up) or 2. Crazy (disproven by the fact that he was very much peaceful, not showing signs of paranoia)

And your point about the High Priest's supporters would rely on the idea that 1. The high priests had the majority of the people who attended the presenting to Pilate's side, which i doubt they did based mainly upon palm sunday, and 2. That they had come to some kind of consensus. Which, if you're correct, they hadn't. Their unity was so great that it convinced Pilate that the only way to stop a riot was to release Barbaras instead of Jesus. He truly believed that he was innocent, and would've taken any chance he could've to have released him peacefully.

And Psychologically it's the only feasible explaination. People can't change that swiftly from Worship to Condemning without Feasible Proof.