[Vasu]

Complete necro-post, but whatever, this part of the forum's dead as a doornail anyways.

Yeah, it depends on the mother. But doesnt it NATURALLY do that in infancy too? I mean, without many of the modern things we have today, wouldnt the baby have to directly depend on the mother's body for milk, etc.? And if such is true, what's the real difference between within and without the womb?

Now I am not talking about depending on the mother for financial or other such reasons. For example, one might argue that even after birth a baby is dependent on the mother for nourishment, shelter, clothing etc. But these can be provided by anybody else just as well as by the mother. I am talking about direct dependence on the mother for survival.

My point is, hypothetically, would you feel the same if it was an infant and the only way to feed was through mother's milk? Because the problem im seeing is mainly the dehumanization of the fetuses. They're still humans, and as age doesnt factor into our decisions in post-natal care, why should we ignore the human rights of the infant while it's still in the mother's womb?

I suppose what im saying is, what gives anyone any right to say it's less human within the womb than it is outside of it?

But an infant does not necessarily need to have its biological mother's milk, does it? It could as well be raised by anyone else once it can basically survive outside the womb.

I guess how human you consider the foetus depends entirely on you. I still stand by that post I made where I think the mother is at perfect liberty to remove the within her as long as it does not have an active existence completely independent of the mother. (This is poor wording, I know the foetus is an independent life form from the moment it is conceived, but I hope you get my meaning from that previous post)

Once removed though, if it is still capable of surviving despite the premature birth, then it falls to the mother to care for it as per law, and the mother should be charged duly in case of negligence. The reason I say it is less human within the womb is once again because it is dependent directly on the mother for its survival. I realise we all depend on someone or the other to some extent or the other for survival but it is not something as strong as the dependency of the foetus on the nutrition provided by the placenta and therefore indirectly by the mother.