Thread: Deity Existence
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Old 04-28-2009, 04:19 AM   #369
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Originally Posted by Jikanu View Post
Well, that's just nature taking its course, then... but isnt it often times not a violent thing when it's a defect? isnt it usually more like a mental handicap then? im probably wrong, please correct me if i am.

It doesn't matter what it usually is. If god is willing to sit back, relax, and watch the "free will" of others destroy a few, he is far from benevolent. Say he is a proponent of free will, fine. But he is not in the least bit benevolent.

Originally Posted by Jikanu View Post
no one knows the ESSENCE of God, so it's too hard for anyone to answer those questions, really. the only people who i can really think of who could are like, well educated priests, theologists, and the Pope... so im not the one to be asking, on that topic.

Fine, but like I said, there is no one nearby who I can ask. Also, shouldn't you try to know what it is you are worshipping a devoting so much of your time to, rather than revelling in ignorance and "faith"?

Originally Posted by Jikanu View Post
And if it's not a factor in the slightest, how can it really affect anything? that's like asking someone to make an algebra question without a variable...

Statement: Complexity is not a factor in the slightest.

Implication: God can solve an equation no matter how complex it is, because complexity is nothing to him.

Inference: God cannot make an equation too complex that even he cannot solve, because he'll end up solving it anyway.

Originally Posted by Jikanu View Post
perhaps he has an appearance, but not a deffinite physical form... kinda like gasses have no deffinite volume, but they're still there.

That doesn't make sense. You either have a physical form, or you are "non-physical." And the gases thing is a false analogy. Gases can be condensed to liquids which then have a definite volume, so we can infer that they are there. Any way of doing so with a "non-physical" being?


Originally Posted by Jikanu View Post
and he gives us free will, and doesnt want to force himself on us...

And yet you claim that he is a personal god, i.e one who intervenes. Exactly how much free will did he give the Egyptian Pharaoh during the exodus? To all the first born children? To all the millions of people he has ordered murdered and raped, and pillaged? I think they want some free will too.
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