Originally Posted by Vasu
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Like Jik said, the theists will just claim that god created the god particle.
We do not know yet. And "goddidit" is NOT an answer.
This does not address my point. Let me rephrase.
God can do anything, and is also a good person, but does not stop us from doing evil because he would rather that we learn for ourselves, that what we are doing is bad. Cool?
But since god also knows everything, he will know that Mr. A is a good person at heart and will change, but Mr. B is a psychopath, and cannot fit into society. So why can't he stop Mr. B?
Yeah, go ahead and believe every frigging rumour you hear.
Like I said, the "figurative" bin is the ultimate cop-out for all bible enthusiasts. Who are you to say which part of the Bible is figurative? I can go ahead and say that Jesus didn't exist, and it was all figurative to show us that the cruel times of the OT were over.
That is not possible, remember?
It's different because the theory of the big bang was not reaches with intention of reaching the theory of the big bang. It was reached by scientific inquiry with the evidence we have at present, with no prior knowledge that such a thing could have happened. However the Bible was written with the full decision that god existed, and is therefore not scientific proof.
Yes, it would indeed be a miracle, if ours was the only solar system, the only planet, revolving around the only star. However there are millions of galaxies out there, and maybe even more universes (though there is no evidence of that, so I will not press it).
Like I said, if you see a closet with trillions of kinds of clothes of all sizes shapes and colours, you shouldn't be surprised to find one that fits.
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1. Why is it not an answer? it's just as plausible as everything that never was miraculously exploding.
and as for the "rumor" i've heard it through the news. not much of a rumor.
2. there is in fact proof that Jesus existed; the only thing that is questioned are his miracles. he's even taught about in history books in school.
3. you never proved that it's impossible; i poked holes in your theories that made it possible.
4. it wasnt like someone just chose to go out and start preaching a falsehood. There was most likely some form of evidence at the time.
5. i think it was more the fact that all these things came together absolutely perfectly, the stars, the planets, everything, in spite of being so complex.
How can nothingness explode? explain that to me. how can pure nothingness, no matter, dark matter, nothing, have heat, spontaneously combust, and form everything in the known universe? you saying that it was found because of scientific theory is even worse of a cop-out than anything you've accused me of, because your theory MUST follow the laws of physics.