Originally Posted by Jikanu
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He's too powerful NOT to lift the rock. that's what my point was.
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Sorry if I'm being dense, but doesn't it seem as if you're just saying that he
can lift it?
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Originally Posted by Jikanu
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And yes, whenever you bring humans into play, there will be corruption.
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And unfortunately, it's humans who practice religion, and humans who form government.
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Originally Posted by Jikanu
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And i see no contradiction between omniciency and omnipitance. Perhaps you should ask him yourself if you end up in heaven?
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I will repeat this as simply as I can. Sorry if that bothers you.
Assumption 1: God knows everything.
Assumption 2: God can do anything.
Deduction 1: God knows what he is going to do in the future, from among the numerous possibilities available to him, for sure, That means he knows that he is definitely going to pick option number 5 out of some 'x' or infinity.
Deduction 2: God can change the decision to pick option 5 to pick option 7.
Inference 1: Now, a contradiction appears before us. God knows for sure that he is going to pick option 5, but he changes it to option 7. Which means that he does not know everything.
Inference 2: Because god knows for sure that he is going to pick option 5, he cannot change his decision, and decide to pick option 7. Which means he can't do everything.
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Originally Posted by Jikanu
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and here in america, there ARE secular republicans too, citing their own religion-less moral values, so it's not all because of religion
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Most moral codes are derived from what religion tell us. Most probably even mine. I find nothing wrong with this. But some tenets of religion are wrong and racist. These are not changed, This is what bothers me.