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Old 04-13-2009, 04:59 PM   #106
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Originally Posted by Jikanu View Post
Ralath, you left out one option there; What if he's willing and able to, but his will for us to do it ourself and to learn and choose to be good outweighs it?

if you're handed things on a silver platter, how are you going to learn what to do and what not to do? perhaps he wants humankind as a whole to learn from its mistakes.
Yes, but if he is omnipotent, he could find an alternative way and have a way for us to do those things. You make it sound like we're his playthings.

Originally Posted by Manzcar View Post
If a parent tells a child the way they should go and they disregard their advice and do things that cause themselves harm. Who's fault is it.
If by child, you mean Adam and Eve... then.... I honestly have no idea how to respond to that. Nor really how it relates to what I've posted. But if the parent knew beforehand (being omniscient and all) that the child was going to disregard his advice... and doesn't do anything to stop him... isn't that bad parenting? I think this is kind of a bad analogy. But notwithstanding, there's something that clashes with this idea that God would tell man to do one thing, knowing well that man is clearly not going to to listen...

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Ralath PM me your list of inconsistencies I would like to see them. Thanks.
Feel free to do any search on the web for them. They're fairly common (and I'm not talking about sources where there's a clearly anti-religion slant or even Wikipedia. Respectable sources ie. universities)
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