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Old 04-13-2009, 04:15 PM   #95
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Originally Posted by Manzcar View Post
Moses did talk to God. God told him to go to the Pharaoh of Egypt and tell the Pharaoh to let His people go. Now at the time Egypt was the most powerful society on earth. The Egyptians had bigger and stronger armies than any other people of that time that was known. Moses walks in and says let my people go and Egypt just says OKIE DOKIE. No, I don’t think so. The Jewish people were their slaves and did all their hard manual work. There is no way they would just let them go. So then God sent plagues on Egypt to the point where the Pharaoh told them to go. The left but Pharaoh decided to pursue them in order to kill or recapture them. Then God parted the Red Sea and the Jewish people were saved. All documented first had accounts written by Moses himself in the Bible. Not only did Moses himself live through this but all the Jewish people he brought out of Egypt. And then God gave them Manna from heaven to eat. Again first hand accounts. Again proof that Moses talked with God and was led by Him.

I am not responding to your point and I never stated that I couldn’t counter them. You still haven’t given me proof that there is not a God.

Okay, for the moment, I will concede and drop the point of whether the Bible constitutes proof. But let me now give you a first hand account that there are fairies in my garden which are only visible to me. Do you believe me? No? Prove me wrong. Okay, I'll say there are invisible fairies in your garden. This is my first hand account. I saw them from way over here. Prove me wrong.

I have already told you it is impossible to prove a negative, so why are you insisting that I prove god does not exist?

Originally Posted by Jikanu View Post
And on the topic of original sin: Life is passed down from our forefathers, and so is the first sin. it's simply it's nature. it's not a sin in the regular sense of the word, just a lack of holiness.
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Original sin[1] is, according to a doctrine proposed in Christian theology, humanity's state of sin resulting from the Fall of Man.[2] This condition has been characterized in many ways, ranging from something as insignificant as a slight deficiency, or a tendency toward sin yet without collective guilt, referred to as a "sin nature", to something as drastic as total depravity or automatic guilt by all humans through collective guilt.[3]

This is from the wiki. Seems like not everybody agrees with your definition.


Originally Posted by Jikanu View Post
And as for the omnipotent vs. omnicient view, how do you know he IS going to change anything? who's to say he didnt plan this out at the beginning of time and is just going to stick to his plan?

The point is not whether he is. The point is whether he can.
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