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Old 01-26-2009, 08:12 PM   #49
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Originally Posted by Hraesvelg View Post
That's perfectly fine. No one is arguing the point that smoking weed should be mandatory. It shouldn't be illegal for those who choose to do so, however.
Reread post #8. My response was to the OP's comment about VIEWS.


Originally Posted by Hraesvelg View Post
So does alcohol and sex, and neither of those should be illegal either. This is a moot point.
So why make it legal? Why are the others legal? Why add one more into the mix?

Originally Posted by Hraesvelg View Post
And it would still apply. Driving while impaired with either drink or weed would have the same penalties. Weed smoking should be a personal choice that comes with personal consequences. I don't think anyone here has made the argument that weed smokers should be able to drive without penalty.
don't think I mentioned penalties, this along with the rest that you broke up into pieces was all in relation to statisctics. Do not throw inaccurate statistics out there and say that pot does not kill.

Originally Posted by Hraesvelg View Post
Mind if I see the medical examiner's report?
Ask the dead girl's sister for it.


Originally Posted by Hraesvelg View Post
Care to site sources? I'd love to see your data about links to respiratory problems and marijuana smoke compared to that of regular smoking which is LEGAL. I don't need the government legislating my morality. If I want to partake of a harmful substance, so be it. Conversely, if I then need treatment due to using the substance, I don't think the government should pay for it, either.
More of breaking up my comments on the misconstrued statistics. The point is not whether it causes more damage or not. The point is it goes down as a "smoking-related" death, not as death by pot. But, lets completely avoid that and if we break it up, it is all about legalizing it or not, not about bad statistics.

Originally Posted by Hraesvelg View Post
Nor do anecdotal accounts or appeals to emotion (like your unsourced quote and Manz's account).
See the above on breaking up my posts, tired of typing the same thing over and over. If it is not clear by now, it never will be.


Originally Posted by Hraesvelg View Post
Good, because that is a result of the black market that has arisen to meet the demand. If the prohibition would be lifted, a large amount of that would be reduced.
NOT about legalizing it or not. About Pot-related deaths. But, lets avoid that, because it throws the argument out of the direction you want.

Besides, in relation to that, we should take on the mentality, "oh we should legalize it, instead of trying to fight it, so the idiots will quit killing themselves." Ummm... no. You do not give in, you fight the war. THat would be like saying, oh lets just give in to terrorists threats, because then less people will be killed.

And seriously, you think the killing would go down? Then why do liquor stores still get robbed? Liquor is legal. Oh wait!!!!!! I know, because it costs money, and idiots don't want to pay for it. The simple fact is, people will still rob and kill for it, because they cannot afford it.
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