Originally Posted by Hraesvelg
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I prefer it when Congress gets nothing done. Remember what happens when they DO start doing things? We get lovely things like the PATRIOT Act.
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patriot act was an over reaction. But getting nothing done means we don't need you. So why do we need a congress that can't get anything done.
Originally Posted by Ralath
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A balanced budget, for one. Economic growth, for another. And no, believe it or not, it was not solely due to the Republican's control in Congress. Otherwise, common sense would dictate that a Republican Congress+a Republican president would have left us off in better conditions than we are now...?
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A balanced budget... who's been lying to you. If the national debt increases the budget is not balanced. The debt has increased every year since 1961. Bush has not done anything to rectify this either. But Clinton did not balance the budget.
To begin with economics has a 5 to 10 year lag to be felt. What that means is that if a president does something today to help the economy the real effect is not felt for 5 to 10 years. So looking at how the economy was during a Presidency is not a good indicator as to how the President did. Secondly the economy was not in good shape during the Clinton era it was over inflated due to lowering interest rates and a weakening dollar that was propped up by a Fed who wanted to see the stock market climb more than to really stabalize the economy. We are now feeling the effects of the Fed's handy work. (notice the president doesn't control the US economy but the Fed does)
Originally Posted by Ralath
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*shrug* If you know that a person knows that something is untrue, but tries to espouse it as truth anyway just to achieve his own goals, would you trust that person? Hell. Thomas Jefferson was believed to have a mistress, an belief now backed by DNA evidence, and people regard him rather fondly nowadays, don't they? I do believe there is a difference between what happens in people's private and public lives.
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At what point do you then say a person's private life is their own thing. Murder, assault, theft, abuse these are all private matters. So at what point do you say what you do in your private life should effect what I think of you.
Originally Posted by Ralath
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Actually, Congress does get blamed for a lot of things. :3 I remember reading an article from the Rolling Stones about how the 109th Congress has done very little. It's a good read. Highly recommended. In fact, I'll even find it for you. Worst Congress Ever. And the Democratic majority in Congress received very low approval ratings after the honeymoon period was over because the public blamed them for not accomplishing anything. But the President is the figurehead of the United States--he's a lot easier to blame than 100 senators and 400+ representatives.
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I'll have to check that out
Originally Posted by Hraesvelg
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That Mick Jagger is an insightful bugger.
Actually, Matt Taibbi is a rather interesting columnist to read. I've also seen him quite a few times on Real Time with Bill Maher. Good call.
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LOL