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Old 07-01-2008, 12:24 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by moparisthebest View Post
Expose them to drinking?
Or R-Rated movies?
Please take in that they are very different than swearing.
Expose them to drinking early can cause health problems, I think we all know that.
R-Rated movies we don't want the young to see any sexual/violence.

But why do I say that it's not so bad when they see it now? Because swearing isn't always 'bad'. I'm not saying it's good; I'm saying that there is no harm in swearing if it's not used for offense.
'They're going to watch it when they're 18+' - let them if they want to. It's not like they're going to start turning violent. Push them to not watch any 18+ movies? That is also fine, just be careful not to push them too much or they might get stressed which leads to violence anyway.
'Be an alcoholic' - How are you sure they are 100% going to become alcoholic? It's not like everybody is alcoholic, but swearing is absolutely a common act. Alcoholic is 'bad' in every way and surely the kids can receive teaching of it's effects and accidents that have occured between alcoholic people.
Why isn't swearing always as bad as it is?
Have you ever sworn once? If so when? Why did you swear? Does that mean that you're becoming lazy/violent/disobedient? I highly doubt that.
You say the 'F' word. Does that mean you're a failure in life?
You say it when you're sad/angry or when you're shocked. Does that mean you should wash your mouth? That's what I mean by 'not as bad' as you may say something but it doesn't necessarily mean you think bad.
Why does swearing mean that it's 100% offensive?

I say "oh s---" does that mean I'm offending people? Am I targeting anyone by saying this? Nope, this is just a mere sign of surprise.

As for swearing excessively, I thought this was okay in the All the Rage board. I thought that board was just for people to release their anger and people wouldn't mind, but would if I said it on another different discussion. And so I was mistaken then.
You seem to be repeating your arguments over and over again. Not everyone said profanity was 100% offensive. But it does clearly have an extensive list of adverse implications in its' implementation in speech and writing. These are not written in stone and they will vary upon the situation.

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I say "oh s---" does that mean I'm offending people? Am I targeting anyone by saying this? Nope, this is just a mere sign of surprise.
Yes you're right about that. But in any large society it's easier to censor swearing, alcohol, offensive TV and other potentially harmful things largely on the whole, than to attempt to filter swearing based on each and every unique context. Moderators on this forum do not have the kind of time to read through each individual post and make fair and well weighted judgements. In larger society, many laws can seem inconvenient and impractical at times, but even so, a government will prefer to apply its' law consistently so the system doesn't come crashing down. Believe me, leaving cracks in any system will lead to a collapse of order quicker than you know. FiestaFan aims to prevent excessive profanity as much as possible. If profanity in a 'decent' context were used too excessively, than FiestaFan must be consistent with its' ruling against excessive swearing. It prevents uproar from the side of people who excessively swear inappropriately asking "why is he allowed to do it, what's the difference." It is seriously time consuming to constantly have to deal with every individual with the same question over and over (stickies do naught). It's easier and serves a larger majority to consistently rule against excessive swearing.

It seems to me you've only been arguing the same points over and over again. You don't construct your argument further from people's thoughts and views, or even re-evaluate your argument the slightest. You hardly argue or discuss any of the fine points made by the people posting here. I admire the determination and persistence, but you gotta realise how stubborn and close minded you're being in this discussion.

Perhaps you think your view is an absolute and universal truth, and that's why you haven't been moved in the slightest by people's posts here. If that is the case, than there really is nothing that can be done. Personally I think that arguing with such a stubborn attitude is unconstructive and self defeating.

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