Is +8 +9 possible without using eye ?
 

Is +8 +9 possible without using eye for lv20 weapon?:confused:

Of course it is, just risky.

Yeap it is! Just that chances are really slim. Triumph made a post about enhancing weapons without eyes as well. I think he said he did +9 weapons, but he had to break a lot of weapons (can't find the post @-@).

it is.. but before u get a +8, +9 u'll probably have to break 70 weapons before you get one...

It is theoretical possible, yes. But it is not practicaly applicable, no.

if u want to know your chance: ask enchanter how many times they usually fail using perfets, until the weapon becomes +9. Now square that value. And u have your odds.

the value should be not equal the real odds(fail <> break), but it should give u a good overview.

I do think that enhancing rate was lowered..

But yes, a few people got +9 before Cash Shopcame out so it's entirely possible.

he said he went through 270 something before he got +9 lvl 30 weapon. Might have been 300.

EDIT: Here is a quote from Triumph:

well.. there u go...

293 is just the number that broke. If you think that isn't even counting the straight fails and downgrades it approaches a statistal impossibility.

Kind of like winning the lottery except a little less likely.

Theoretically and actually possible. However, it's highly probable that you will fail. Consequently, it is not worth the investment.

A majority of breaks/downgrades for level 1 weapons occur starting from the process of attempting +7 from +6. From ground state to +6, your chances for success are relatively high.