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agash 02-20-2008 03:31 PM

Basic Stats Information
 
Hi
Seems like the All About Stats Article is outdated: http://www.fiestafan.com/wiki/All_About_Stats

I tried to confirm the information, but got different results: (I'm on Apoline btw.)
* +1 stat point on STR gives +1 Dmg (not +1,2)
[confirmed till +4 STR]
* +1 stat point on END gives +1 Def (not 0,5), but still 0.1 Block and 5 HP
[confirmed till +8 END]
* +1 stat point on DEX gives 0,3 Aim and 0,2 Ev
[only confirmed for +1 DEX]
* +1 stat point on SPR gives +1 M.Def. (not 0,5) but still 0,2 Crit and 5 SP
[only confirmed for +1 SPR]

This information is only true for stat points you get for leveling up. Seems like items that increase STR, END, DEX, INT or SPR do not change that much in the free stats window ...

I'm not happy with this discovery, since I'd like to know what happens when I place one of my precious llevel-up stat points ...

I'd even volunteer to make a chart, but I don't have enough information. My strongest char is lvl 20 and my second only lvl 15.
So if anyone of you guys would give me
- your base stat information: the +something number in the branket; without any enhancing item/spell/scroll/etc on; (the numbers are white then)
and
- your free stat information (bonuses on Dmg, Def, Aim, Ev, M.Dmg. M. Def., Crit, Block, mas HP, max SP) once again without any enhancement,
maybe I could make something usefull.

well,
Bye

Icy 02-20-2008 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by agash (Post 93910)
Hi
Seems like the All About Stats Article is outdated: http://www.fiestafan.com/wiki/All_About_Stats

I tried to confirm the information, but got different results: (I'm on Apoline btw.)
* +1 stat point on STR gives +1 Dmg (not +1,2)
[confirmed till +4 STR]

Read the description in the free-stats window. You get 1 bonus damage per 5 points, hence 6 damage per 5 points, and that averages 1.2 per point.

Quote:

* +1 stat point on END gives +1 Def (not 0,5), but still 0.1 Block and 5 HP
[confirmed till +8 END]
I believe you get 1 defense for every other point you put into END. Same applies to SPR and Mdef.

Quote:

* +1 stat point on DEX gives 0,3 Aim and 0,2 Ev
[only confirmed for +1 DEX]
* +1 stat point on SPR gives +1 M.Def. (not 0,5) but still 0,2 Crit and 5 SP
[only confirmed for +1 SPR]
Again, you get 1 point in Mdef every other point you dump into SPR.

Quote:

This information is only true for stat points you get for leveling up. Seems like items that increase STR, END, DEX, INT or SPR do not change that much in the free stats window ...
Mods that add directly to your display stats, i.e. from equipments, contribute to your display stats in a simple way. It does not affect anything shown in the free stats window. Nor will any of your free stats affect the displayed stats. Here's what I've noticed.

1 STR raises damage by 1.
1 END raises defense by 1, HP by 5.
1 DEX raises aim, evasion by 1.
1 INT raises Mdamage by 1.
1 SPR raises Mdefense by 1, SP by 5.

Quote:

I'm not happy with this discovery, since I'd like to know what happens when I place one of my precious llevel-up stat points ...

I'd even volunteer to make a chart, but I don't have enough information. My strongest char is lvl 20 and my second only lvl 15.
So if anyone of you guys would give me
- your base stat information: the +something number in the branket; without any enhancing item/spell/scroll/etc on; (the numbers are white then)
and
- your free stat information (bonuses on Dmg, Def, Aim, Ev, M.Dmg. M. Def., Crit, Block, mas HP, max SP) once again without any enhancement,
maybe I could make something usefull.

well,
Bye
As far as I am aware of the wiki entry is accurate :O

agash 02-20-2008 09:42 PM

Okay, now I do understand the END and the SPR explanation. Actually, that's something my brain should have managed on its own, but, well, I quess sometimes it gets back at me for thinking about such things at 3am.

And your information about mods that add directly to the display stats sounds good too.

But I don't get the STR explanation: I get 1 bonus damage per 5 points, hence 6 damage per 5 points, and that averages 1.2 per point? Huh?
Look, I level up, get 1 level-up stat point, use it for STR and in the free Status Window it says Damage:+1. Next time I get another point, I use it for STR and in the free Status Window it says Damage:+2. Next point, once again STR and free Status Window says Damage:+3, ...
So I assumed every time I raise my STR by 1, I raise my Damage by 1, too.
Does this mean that in my free Status Window it has to say Damage:+5 before I get 1 bonus damage???

Ralath 02-20-2008 11:00 PM

^What you are actually adding is 1.2 damage everytime you add STR. Except, since this is Fiesta and not real world math, it just drops off the decimal. However, when you add +5 STR...

5 x 1.2 = 6

So the decimal is gone and Fiesta can figure out whole numbers again.

Icy 02-21-2008 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by agash (Post 94050)
So I assumed every time I raise my STR by 1, I raise my Damage by 1, too. Does this mean that in my free Status Window it has to say Damage:+5 before I get 1 bonus damage???

It will never say +5 ;) +6 comes after +4. Every 5th point, 2 bonus damage is awarded rather than the usual one.

agash 02-24-2008 06:32 PM

Thanks!
You know I was really looking hard for those decimals ... and they never showed up ...


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