What is the point of bleed/trip?
 

Does anyone know if there is even any use for these skills? I know that there comes a point where bash no longer gets upgrades, but i checked the skills in uruga and it seems that even a level 4 bash has more damage then maxed bleed/trip. moreover, bleed/trip have longer cool times and more SP usage, and according to FiestaWiki, the only advantage is that it can be chain cast with bash. Is this really useful and a good enough reason to empower these skills or should I use all empowerment points on bash? because I was thinking about maxing the cool time of bash if bleed/trip are going to be useless... Also, do these skills have a shorter casting time then bash?

I just turned lvl 40 this morning, and i must say that trip is HORRIBLE, I was fighting harkans and it only ended up doing 30 more damage than a regular attack.. I honestly don't know why they would even make it if it would be this awful, it's a waste of sp and money. If I were you I wouldn't buy it, worst 18s I've ever spent.

In Bright Kingdom/Shine Online they both can stun mobs.

I think in the Korean Fiesta too.

ok thanks... so i should not bother using any empowermets on these right? and btw is there anyway to play bright kingdom/shine online or do they block foriegn IPs?

I would not recommend it. The maximum power of Bleed/Trip and Break is only slightly better than Bash [04]. If you plan on empowering an attack skill, stick to Bash. Its maximum damage goes up to 1180~1388 damage at Bash [10], which is acquired at level 77.

I would also save some points for yet another skill, which is Extinguish. It lowers the target's strength, supposedly.

Bright Kingdom is currently impossible because of an IP ban.

Shine is just really hard to register, because you can't translate the registering page. No tools can, its like flash/pictures.

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Ergo, this is a forewarning.

They're illegal, and a criminal offense. In Korea, they account for identity theft and fraud, and are subject to respective punishments that may incur.

Proceed to hunt for one at your own risk.

I took it out. Edited your posts.

Ok i guess ill just stick to legal fiesta... but how did u find out about those high leveled skills that havent been updated on the official websites? I dont know of any skills higher then invigorate...