Originally Posted by AdamWest (Post 175290)

A little math for you guys:

at level 20, with no points into str
the mace does 135.5 points of damage per second (weapon damage+base damage/1.1)
the hammer does 136.2 points of damage per second(weapon damage+base damage/1.3)

This isn't entirely accurate, as it doesn't take into account mastery levels. But as you can see, the difference in DPS is negligible. Also it should be taken into account I'm a pure end cleric. Some clerics with end/str builds may have a high enough base damage to utilize the faster attack rate and the mace may possibly out DPS the hammer.

As far as the aim disparity, we're talking a difference of 9 measley points. you wont notice any difference on yellow mobs and if you are grinding on red mobs you should be fully scrolled anyways.

on the surface, the hammer looks to be the obvious winner as far as crit rate, however with the attack rate difference, the gap is smaller than it first appears.

a hammer will hit 46.1 times in 60 seconds at 5% crit rate, 2.3 of those will crit. A mace on the other hand will hit 54.5 times in 60 seconds. at 3% crit rate, 1.6 of those will crit. So if we extrapolate this information out that means you will crit about 3 more times with a hammer every 5 minutes than with a mace. now I am only talking about time spent actually attacking, and not including the use of any skills as that throws off the timing and is too hard to calculate for.

And this difference gets even smaller as outside crit boosters are added in. Lets say you have 1% crit earrings, 25 spr for an added 5% crit, and a completed grave robber liscense for an added 1% crit on your weapon. now the mace crits 5.45 times a minute, the hammer crits 5.532 times per minute. that added crit rate is now nothing.

So what does this mean in the end? the differences between the two are so small it doesn't matter what you chose. Get whichever one you think looks cooler.

Originally Posted by Blaaaaaaaah (Post 41556)

I never calculated the damage like you, but from the "feel" of it, I seem to like hammer better at level 40.

My level 40 mace never crits. I might crit if I'm lucky, but I don't seem to notice much critting at all, whereas my level 40 hammer seems to crit enough for me to notice the difference.

But then again, my hammer is +4 while my mace was +3 - the damage is obviously better for my hammer, but the crit rate isn't affected by it, right? Since it didn't increase the crit rate for it after enhancement...

Originally Posted by Lackluster (Post 41565)

I crit ALOT with maces..maybe you just have bad luck? >.>

Originally Posted by Blaaaaaaaah (Post 41576)

T_T Maybe, or the maces just doesn't like me.

Originally Posted by ernesto3333 (Post 41231)

every 5str i bring up 1 end does that change on whats better for me. If so ...hammer or mace?:confused: