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Jikanu 05-23-2009 06:30 PM

Ian Thomlinson.
 
Has anyone else heard of this? it's horrible...


Belaslav 05-24-2009 04:37 AM

Poor man.

But then again, you obviously have never been in Russia.

Yosei 05-24-2009 04:57 AM

Meh, its nothing new. Police brutality is everywhere, and I've seen worse. It was common in the area I lived in.

Some guy was pulled over at a gas station, he wasn't resisting at all, and the police slugged him and bashed his head into a car window. A cop hog tied this one guy he pulled over, but he was really heavy, and with the way the cops had him situated, he couldn't breathe. He kept crying out to them, telling them he couldn't breathe, but they wouldn't listen. He ended up sufficating to death.

There is a lot of corruption in the "law". And not everyone is going to be fair unfortunately, even with police. Obviously they were trying to contain people. That police officer probably wasn't paying much attention and since he was a civilian present at a protest, he just reacted instantly, and what he did wasn't too bad compared to what other cops have done.

Jikanu 05-24-2009 05:48 AM

Just because it's common doesnt make it better.

Violence is not relative. Nor is outrage, or populous rage.

Yosei 05-24-2009 06:00 AM

Just saying, you can't stop it and I don't see what makes this one anymore special or different. I mean.. they're the law. The police are the enforcers. So, yeah. People are kind of stuck there. Its yet another unfortunate thing in this world that we can't control.

Jikanu 05-24-2009 06:03 AM

but we CAN. it requires hard worl and sacrifice, but we can CHANGE things. If 1/4 of a country stopped paying taxes, the government would be forced to it's knees. Many would have to go to jail, but it would be for a worthy cause. Henry David Thoreau.

Yosei 05-24-2009 06:09 AM

If 1/4 of the country stopped paying taxes, school and city budgeting would but cut and the people would lose out.

They'd just cover up that stuff, or fire the person and eventually end up hiring another person who will do the same. Its not a government conspiracy.

Jikanu 05-24-2009 06:10 AM

No, it's not, but it's obviously wrong. People are becoming far too contented with the evil in the world. we need to change things. and it's possible. Eventually, at a point, the jails would be full, and the government would have no choice but to listen.

Hyper 05-24-2009 06:16 AM

There will always be corruption and violence. No point in trying to stop it imo. Just let it run it's course.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Belaslav (Post 339411)
Poor man.

But then again, you obviously have never been in Russia.

Exactly. Much worse happens...

Jikanu 05-24-2009 06:23 AM

Yes, worse happens, but once more, violence is not relative. If brutality and violence happen, we should react with the utmost power. we cant sit idly by as murder goes on.


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