Don't worry Hrae, I'm gonna make my full post soon enough.
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i don't think there is such a thing as a god but i believe in a higher power that cant be explained... like karma, do good get good do bad get bad kinda thing
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What makes you feel that way, Deoial?
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Deoial, I believe that is referred to as agnosticism.
You should check it out ^^ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism Believing in a higher power or an afterlife, but not being sure. It's kind of a personal religion because there are really no set standards or practices. It's basically claiming ignorance.. |
Agnosticism doesn't mean "not being sure" or "ignorant." It means "doesn't know." It's quite a bit more firm than just not being sure. He said he believes in karma and/or a higher power, both of which are metaphysical truth claims. It is unknown whether or not these are true, as there is simply no evidence to support those claims. Those who make a truth claim must be prepared to back it up with evidence, otherwise our entire system of reason is meaningless.
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Well, I know I said "soon enough" but I was busy. Busy, I tell you!
Right: 1. For people who voted "many gods" and "personal god": When a theory is proposed, one needs to offer evidence to back it up. Just because there is no proof against your theory, doesn't make it true. For example, there's Russell's Teapot: Quote:
Next, for those who say that the fact that the universe exists is itself proof of a God, the answer, is that it might be. But it is most certainly not proof of a personal God. Why couldn't it just be some sort of primal energy/force, mindless "thing" as it were that created the universe? Why a living, benevolent, omnipotent, omniscient creature? In other words, why couldn't it be an impersonal God? I'll deal with that later. Next, for those who think that this personal god/gods are described by religion: I find it really amazing that most religions have contradictions among themselves, and yet everybody manages to conveniently ignore them and go on with life. You do not need a God for some sort of spiritual "reassurance". How you find reassurance from something/someone that might (with a very small probability, I might add) exist. You do not need a God to be moral. If it is the fear of God that drives you to be good, then it's obvious that if God said "It's okay to have extramarital sex, it's okay to rape everyone." then you wouldn't find anything wrong with it. I, on the other hand, would. My code of morality is based on what is permissible by my mind, while yours is run by what is permitted by your God. For all those who think that atheists are immoral, then let me kindly point out, that I am a hell lot more moral than the Old Testament god. 2. For those who voted "Impersonal God" I can understand your choice a lot more, because I can see the need to formulate an explanation for the existence of the universe. However, this is a rather redundant position, because it begs the question "What created the impersonal god?" Sort of like a "It's turtles all the way down." argument. 3. For those who voted for any of the other two: I share your opinion, what more can I say? :D Just remember, that there might be a god. We can't say for sure. |
Ha! Both Russell's Teapot and "turtles all the way down." What more is there to say?
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If my understanding you correctly if it is okay in your mind to do what you want than it is moral? then in your mind if rape was okay and moral than it would be okay and moral right. How was he immoral? |
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Point conceded, only because I'm not well versed enough in christianity to point them out. I'll be happy to provide stuff from my own religion if you want. I can throw that question right back at you. If God said it was okay to rape, would you? I think not. Why not? Because of your mind. Get ready for quotes: The God was immoral because: He had no "religious tolerance" and encouraged the killing of those who dodn't follow him. Quote:
More encouragement of war, and plunder: Quote:
Promise of sexual satisfaction: Quote:
Taking of girls as war trophies: Quote:
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