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Rightclaw 01-26-2008 08:31 PM

Policy FAQ/Update.
 
This is a list of offenses and their respective punishments. If you think anything should be added to the list, then please PM a moderator.

The Golden Rule

Due to recent events, we have decided that in extreme situations, FF staff reserves the right to ban any member who may be causing havoc upon the community and its members. FF mods and admin will never judge based upon their own personal opinions and feelings, and only after receiving many complaints from the community, and a mutual agreement between all FF staff members.

This is not directed at anyone specifically, but as a forewarning to those who attempt to find loopholes and attempt to ruin others time on the forums.

Infractions

3 infractions will result in a 7 day ban. 3 more infractions will result in a permanent ban. If you go a certain amount of time without getting any infractions, they will be removed, thus giving you a clean slate.

Creating alternate accounts during a temp ban

If you are caught making an alternate account while you are in a temp ban, the temp ban on your main account will be extended for another 7 days. You will get two chances. If you still continue to create alternate accounts, you will receive a permanent ban after the third alternate account created.

However, FiestaFan will give second chances. Your account will remain permanently banned, but you will be allowed to come back again after two months.

Flaming/Insulting other members

1st offense is usually a warning in the thread, but individual warnings can be issued also. Anything after that is an infraction.

Offensive language

Offensive language (e.g. swearing, vulgar words) on the forums is not appreciated. You may be given an infraction for it if moderators deem it inappropriate and/or excessive after discussion. Names are included. If a member is found to have made an account with an offensive name, they will have their name changed by an administrator and will be notified via e-mail.

Spam

Spamming on the forums (excluding guild forums and MoS) are not welcome here. Spamming includes:
  • "Mindless" comments that is not related to the topic of the thread
  • One or two word posts (probably with the exception of Roumen Port and commenting on art works)
  • Posts of the same thing without showing any more thoughts into it (other than repeating it)
  • Posts that contribute nothing to the thread.
Spamming in threads will result in the deletion of your posts and perhaps a warning. If spamming continues, it will result in an infraction.

Necroposting

1 month is considered a necropost. 1st time offense will just be a warning. 2nd offense will also be a warning. Any time after that will result in an infraction. We will not consider it a necro post if you contribute something to the thread. Guides are included.

ToS Violations

this includes pictures of it, how to do it, etc. Keep it all to PMs, please. This will result in immediate infraction.

Porn or images deemed inappropriate

Will result in a 7 day ban, or a lesser punishment depending on the severity of the image/link/etc.

Careful what you post. Some sites have it set so that when you post the image on a separate site, the image changes with the post.

Racism

Will result in a warning, and then an infraction if it continues.

Blacklisting

We have decided that blacklisting is not allowed here. Originally, we have specifically said that naming names are not permitted in All the Rage, but it doesn't make it any different if you post it in Screenshots section, so blacklisting is not allowed anywhere on the forums. Please censor the names of the people you're complaining about if you wish to post screenshots.

Posts will be edited and screenshots will be removed if they have no been censored. As usual, warning for first offense, and infractions from then on.

The Family Member/Friend excuse

We are no longer accepting this as a valid excuse. You are now responsible for the actions of anyone logging on to your account.

Plagiarism - Taking credit for someone else's work

You will be asked to remove the sig/ava/guide/artwork/etc within 2 days. If you fail to do so, then we will remove it for you and you will recieve an infraction.

Arcade Hacking

Recently, there have been a few incidents where members have "hacked" the arcade to obtain illegitimate scores. From now on, if any members are caught doing this, it will result in a one month ban from the arcade as well as an infraction. This includes the exploitation of bugs/glitches. Any methods used to obtain illegitimate scores is not allowed. Unexplained accidental glitches will also fall into the same category. Please PM any/all mod/admins ASAP if this does happen.

If you want to "test" out different methods to see whether it will work on FF Arcade, I'd recommend you to PM the Administrator (Entropy) or the moderators about this instead so we can look into the security issues, rather than going ahead to hack the games. Any hacked scores will also be removed.

Hacking games are not acceptable, and that goes for the Arcade too.


Selling of Accounts
Quote:

Thank you for contacting us about this issue.

When it comes to selling accounts, this is strictly forbidden by the Terms of Service. If an account is found to be sold, it will be terminated without compensation to the owner or buyer. Please pass this information along to the parties involved. I thank you for your understanding and cooperation in this matter.

Regards,

Outspark.com
Customer Service
The quote says all, you are not allowed to sell accounts.

Private servers

Linking to private servers are not permitted.


Reputation Comments
  1. Threads made about negative reppers (whether it'd be a thread raging at the neg reppers or a thread laughing at them for being sad) will be automatically closed.
  2. No flaming in reputation comments are allowed. Reputation comments are there for you to provide constructive criticism. This does not include calling people names such as "stupid" or "idiot" or "dumb" and the like.
  3. Rep comments are now moderated if reported. If you are caught flaming in rep, you will receive a warning for first offense. Any more offenses after first warning, you will be given an infraction. However, reps will not be removed.
  4. Report rep comments via Talk With The Mods section so all moderators can see it.
  5. We will NOT tell you who had flamed you in the derep. We will only tell you whether we have warned the derepper or not.
  6. Spam negative repping is also not tolerated. Doing so will also result in a warning/infraction.
  7. We will NOT moderate reps if the person getting flamed makes a thread or post about it in the first place. You are to report it if you want something done.


MSN/etc Conversations/Private Messages

If you feel the need to post MSN/etc conversations/private messages with/from another member, the other members featured in the conversation/message have every right to PM an admin/mod to ask for it to be removed if they wish to. Please remember that MSN/etc conversations and private messages are meant to be kept private. Though we have not decided to ban such posts from FF, please be considerate and think twice about the other members' privacy.

If we have been asked multiple times to remove/edit your post with such content, you will receive an infraction.


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Keep in mind that leniency can be shown.

A_Forever 01-26-2008 08:34 PM

Wow. People actually do get a lot of chances here O_o;;

Yosei 01-26-2008 08:36 PM

Added a bit to the infractions, sorry, just noticed it ^^;;

viasta 01-26-2008 08:38 PM

what does infraction means? sry for noob question, i have bad vocab :/

Yosei 01-26-2008 08:40 PM

Its like a bad noodle point. You guys can't see them but we can.

A_Forever 01-26-2008 08:44 PM

Is it like getting a point on your license? Lolz.

Rightclaw 01-26-2008 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A_Forever (Post 78794)
Is it like getting a point on your license? Lolz.

Yeah, sort of. It's a bit hard to explain.

Mindspank 01-26-2008 08:49 PM

I happen to disagree with the necroposting policy. (im guilty of it). But their your rules and I post here so I have to abide by them.

Lady-Loki 01-26-2008 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mindspank (Post 78800)
I happen to disagree with the necroposting policy. (im guilty of it). But their your rules and I post here so I have to abide by them.

Yeah, I thought the necro one was a bit harsh too. Maybe two warnings before n infraction since lots of times most people don't look at the dates, they just read the thread and think "Oh, let me say . . . ".

But, yeah, I guess if I goof I will have to refrain from posting so as to avoid too many.

@ Mods, how long till an infraction drops? Do they roll off after 3, 6 9 months of good behavior?

Do we get a PM if we get an infraction?

Rightclaw 01-26-2008 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady-Loki (Post 78826)
Yeah, I thought the necro one was a bit harsh too. Maybe two warnings before n infraction since lots of times most people don't look at the dates, they just read the thread and think "Oh, let me say . . . ".

But, yeah, I guess if I goof I will have to refrain from posting so as to avoid too many.

@ Mods, how long till an infraction drops? Do they roll off after 3, 6 9 months of good behavior?

Do we get a PM if we get an infraction?

It expires after 10 days, and there is an automated PM sent out when you get one.

AngellicDiety 01-26-2008 09:26 PM

I protest the necroposting rule.

Firstly, your forums still display threads that are months old.

If you really want to stop necro-posting I suggest you prune your forums.

Otherwise its unfair to expect people not to post in them. Exspecially in some forums where the difference between yesterday and a month ago is not apparent, and is only a minor difference in "02" and "01."

I suggest you revise your rules, or revise your board system. This rule in particular is set for failure unless you do something about the threads people can visibly see.

Rightclaw 01-26-2008 09:31 PM

Nothing is set in stone, really.

and what do you guys hate about the necroposting rule? The infraction, the time limit, or the whole thing?

viasta 01-26-2008 09:35 PM

i dont see anything wrong with the rules. But maybe you can add Necroposting a 1 month+ topic will not be penalized if the topic is active as in ppl posts there often

Yosei 01-26-2008 09:38 PM

Well its based off of the last post. It doesn't hurt to check out the date on a post, to make sure you aren't necroposting.

A_Forever 01-26-2008 09:38 PM

I don't see why they hate it. Just look at the dates. Not that hard @_@

Lady-Loki 01-26-2008 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rightclaw (Post 78829)
Nothing is set in stone, really.

and what do you guys hate about the necroposting rule? The infraction, the time limit, or the whole thing?

Oh, OK, if the infractions automatically drop in 10 days then it shouldn't be an issue since the PM and infraction should cause me to be a little more cautious for at least that long, but it still would seem to equate more to the other offenses and penalties if there was a 1st warning, 2nd warning, third strike your out on the necro issue since it really is a lesser offense that some of the others.

viasta 01-26-2008 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A_Forever (Post 78833)
I don't see why they hate it. Just look at the dates. Not that hard @_@

I think it's very hard for some people o.O

Belaslav 01-26-2008 09:44 PM

Can't you just program the board to autolock old threads after a specific time period?

AngellicDiety 01-26-2008 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Belaslav (Post 78837)
Can't you just program the board to autolock old threads after a specific time period?

There is no need to.

The board administrators have the option of changing the default display settings of a forum.

They can change the "Display post's since the beginning" to limit it to "display posts up to a month old."

What this does - is if the topic is not posted in within a month, it still exists in the board archives, just not visible to the average joe unless he changes the display settings of the board (at the bottom of the forum.)

This prevents mistakes when it comes to necroposting.

Adding a rule that punishes the user for necroposting on forums where it can be unclear whether or not the topic is active (class-related forums where not much volume in terms of posting is seen), is just downright setting yourself up for failure.

This isn't a "superly" active forum where old threads get pushed to the second page of the forum within a matter of day's... So you cant expect a necroposting rule such as the one proposed to make any sense in any sort of way.


If this were a really active forum where threads got pushed to the second page after a day or week of inactivity because of volume - then the necroposting rule makes complete sense as you need to physically go to the second page to be able to post on the old topic...

The only way this necroposting rule makes any sort of sense is if you somehow make it such that work is actually needed to find the old thread to post on

This is achieved as I said previously by changing the default forum display settings from "display from the beginning" to "display up until 1 month." This is a vBulletin board so its completely possible.

Belaslav 01-26-2008 09:55 PM

^Win.

Mindspank 01-26-2008 09:56 PM

The whole thing about the necroposting thing is when you come up to a thread, say 5 pages long (this is actualy what happened to me) And you know alot about what they are talking about. you read and read and read and at the end, you think of things that are relevant to the topic, and have not been covered so im gonna post this info here and hopefully help someone out.

Next thing you know you get a nasty PM for necroposting. I honestly dont see anything wrong with posting in an old thread if the admins actively prune the forums or set it to display posts for a month.

Rightclaw 01-26-2008 09:57 PM

I am not sure whether or not that would be a good idea since it would also kill the guides and questions section, but I'll still bring it up in the staff forum and see what everyone else thinks on this issue.

Mindspank 01-27-2008 02:18 AM

They are sticky. Every other forum I have been to since 1999 has had old old sticky posts and they exsist for that simple fact that they are sticky. If the vbulletin boards are different, then my bad.

Esen 01-27-2008 02:22 AM

Not all the guides in the guide section are stickied, and questions aren't like that either. o-o'

Rightclaw 01-27-2008 02:23 AM

We've decided that you won't be punished for necroposting if you have something to add to the thread.

A_Forever 01-27-2008 02:37 AM

I still don't get whats so hard about looking at dates>>

Esen 01-27-2008 02:39 AM

Me either, haha. But on forums where they don't show all posts, I set it to show anyways so I'm use to looking at the dates. I guess other people just aren't.

Blaaaaaaaah 01-27-2008 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rightclaw (Post 79185)
We've decided that you won't be punished for necroposting if you have something to add to the thread.

I would just like to clarify that, just because there are no punishments, doesn't mean you can do it. You may only do this if you have something new to contribute to the thread, or if you have a good reason to bump the thread.

Posts like "lol yeah" which bumps up an old thread is not allowed, and if anyone continues and purposely necro threads with useless posts like that, it will result in an infraction.

Rightclaw 01-27-2008 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaaaaaaaah (Post 79380)
I would just like to clarify that, just because there are no punishments, doesn't mean you can do it. You may only do this if you have something new to contribute to the thread, or if you have a good reason to bump the thread.

Posts like "lol yeah" which bumps up an old thread is not allowed, and if anyone continues and purposely necro threads with useless posts like that, it will result in an infraction.

Thanks.

Belaslav 01-27-2008 02:55 PM

Best solution.

Blaaaaaaaah 02-04-2008 07:26 PM

Okay, bump. You guys may notice there was a selling account thread - you're actually not allowed to do that. Check first post.

Rightclaw 02-17-2008 02:49 PM

Added plagiarism.

Rightclaw 03-29-2008 02:27 AM

bump.

did some slight rewording..

Rightclaw 05-23-2008 03:53 PM

^

added Arcade Hacking

Blaaaaaaaah 06-10-2008 06:51 AM

Bump. Added Private servers rule.

06-10-2008 06:57 AM

i didnt mean for wut happend in that turny =(

Blaaaaaaaah 06-10-2008 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by resol (Post 161477)
i didnt mean for wut happend in that turny =(

What do you mean? :lost:

Spirit 06-10-2008 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by resol (Post 161477)
i didnt mean for wut happend in that turny =(

The new arcade rule was not related to your incedent. We had other problems and the rule was created so that there will be a standard procedure if it happens again.

LiTtLeJoEy 06-13-2008 02:08 PM

lol this is easy i never get a infraction

MaxOff 06-13-2008 03:06 PM

u did not get a infraction for your 1year necro post?:zip:

Link:http://www.fiestafan.com/forums/show...25&postcount=9


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