OB - Which Build & Empower?
 

Now that we have had the opportunity to prove ours builds.
Let us ask this:
Q1: Which Build is most effective to archer?
Q2: What empower needs each skill?

A1: My opinion would be that there is no an effective Build. It depends on the strategy of the player.
A2: Aim Shot “Power”, Power Shot “Power”, Fury Impact “SP Com”, Bone Shot “SP Com”, Multishot “Power/SP Com”, Nature Protection “Unknow”

Personally I'll concentrate on SPR and DEX, cause I want my enemies to miss me a lot while I crit them to death. And as for empowerments... Well, for increased damage based skills - Power and cooldown, and as for poison - Duration time.

Full Spr untill lvl 20 then the 5 points into dex and dex from there on also I belive well aimed shot should be empowered to lower cooldown.

25 DEX 25 SPR 20 END.... basically what I'd do. Because after a while of putting all into dex and spr your percentage goes down to a point where it's almost like wasting points because you already get a mass ammount of dex on lvl ups. So I do 3:3 DEX & SPR in beginning and once SPR is to 20 or 15 I switch that over to END just to balance out.

Might want to put SP consumation points added to poison attacks... because they drain a lot of your SP and usually you only use them once or twice on an emeny.

I find DEX rises enough as you level so I'll probably be concentrating more on STR or SPR. Although I'm more worried about SPR. Oh! and maybe! some END.

10-15 end might be all you really need. It's good for the soloing.

Thanks bcdood.

After posting here I started to really think about stats. I realize in some games there is stats that you add only to benefit you in your newbie days.

For example: Say I wanted to be a full support cleric and they start off with low health. I would add end/con/vit to help me get to a proper level before going all out int/spr.

If i skipped adding those stats that help my health and just went a slower route for leveling wouldnt that benefit me more when i was higher level? I also realize in some games health can be more essential than others. I just wondered if you went a slower route for leveling as a newb and skipped wasting stats/skill points etc. in order to level up faster couldn't that benefit you more in the long run?

Just something that popped in my mind. I could be thinking about this all wrong, but I wanted opinions.

A good build for anyone who wants to use:

25+ spr(put all points in spr until lv21)
All other points go into dex or end

That makes sense. I did try full SPR and before I even reached Lv20 I had a good critical rate (loved those skill crits that OHKO).

Then either DEX or END cause you don't need both in my opinion. I'd go full DEX afterwards. As should be with Archers. :P

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I support you in that O-mie :rolleyes:

It is truth, archer dont need much Spr to make CH (Critical Hit) :D


But I do not believe either that it needs to be Full Dex, I believe that it requires a little more Str than of Dex. :rolleyes:
By regular the Archer wins in Dex average between 3 to 4 by level. :eek:
And Str between 2 to 3 by level. :(

I use this build Dex: Str 1:2 I work well all along that it uses it. :cool:
Perhaps Spr 10 or 15 raises. But leaving build.

Empowerments :eek:
Here I do not have left clear. Why Duration Time? :confused:
The Duration Time that has the Skill is sufficient.
It is not thus? :eek:

I want to learn much of the Archers. And what you think
Welcome to my world of doubts hehe.
We will continue ourselves seeing :cool:

:D Just my twooooo cents but technically a archer can go pure str ^^ in CB1 we had Hecatomix...pure str archer *at a time the highest archer in the game*...he was pure ownage in PvP an PvE..Since archers get high Dex boost...Pure Str is plausible...an worth doing :D.

I like your build, O-mie. I was iffy on adding that small amount of END, but you made it sound worth it. I'll probably be doing something similar. I'm definitely getting 25 SPR, but I might stop after that and go full STR. I'll see how things go. =P

ill probly go spr till 25 then...ill find out then

i'm kind of split, my stats were scattered in CB. i ended up with mostly str, about 6 spr, some dex, and some end. with those few points of end i was finally able to survive mara's aoe which is definately good cause that's one less life wasted so i was thinking of going 2:1 str:end but i also loved those crits. maybe i'll just put the bonus points from job change in spr and i'll completely ignore dex this time unlike last time when i put a few points in it

I am planning for the future,


Strength:
When you start strength is very effective, say you are level 5 and you do 10 damage every hit, If you put 5 points into strength this goes up to 16 every hit which is a major 60% increase!

However,

Now you are level 100, and you do 1000 damage every hit, if you put 100 points into strength then you only have a 10% bonus, instead of 60, this trend continues the higher you go.
Average damage per shot = 1100
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Spirit:
You are level 5 again and do 10 damage per hit, but you decide to put 5 points in spirit instead. This gives you a 1% increase to critical hits and a little sp and Mdef. A 1% chance of doing 10 extra damage(assuming critical hits are double damage) is a mere 1% increase in damage over time.

However,

Now your level 100, and you do 1000 damage every hit, you have put 100 points into spirit which increases your critical hit rate by 12.5%. Your average bonus damage from the extra crits would be 125/shot
Average damage per shot = 1125 (added benefits of SP and magic defense)

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Dex:
First off I have never missed a shot as an archer, my dex is my highest stat even though I have never put a point into it. The higher I get the more I will dodge naturally, and I will always have more dex then other classes. The higher you get the less usefull this will be, I would rather kill my opponent before he gets to me anyway.

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Int:
Useless for an archer

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End:
Adds hp, def, and shield block

HP/def- You may very well need to up this some, I imagine higher level bosses will have some form of AE's or ways to damage you at range, and you can't shoot if your dead. I will possibly put my points from class changes into this.
Shield block- useless for archer

i was doing 2:1 str:end but i'm thinking of switching that to 3:1

My archer is a full SPR till lvl 20 (when i manage to get +25 SPR), and then go for 1:1 STR,DEX for damage :p

Nothing feels better than an archer owning everything with criticals.... :D

That's what I plan to do. I have scroll production so I'll just use that for extra HP and DEF. And I suppose if I really need more END or something I can use a ring too.

I'm still going full Dex as Kuhn has inspired me to do so.

Also, adding abit of Str in there.

That wouldn't be full dex. =[

As for my archer's stats, I'm just improvising.

I'm actually making four archers, because I didn't decide I wanted an archer in CB, so now I need to test everything in OB =/

Build #1(PvM): 3:1 STR:END
Pretty straight forward, a damage build with a bit of END. Going to use a crossbow.
Build #2 (PvP: 2:1 END:STR
My PvP whore XD. I'm not sure if I'm going to make this an archer, all I know is that I will have a PvP account. Going to find out all the skills for the classes, and decide on my PvP class. Anyways, if it does end up being an archer, it'll have enough END to tank a few hits and enough STR to actually kill people. Will use a bow.
Build #3 (PvM): 1:1 STR: SPR
Testing this for efficiency, to see if it'll be faster than build #1. Will use a crossbow.
Build #4 (PvM): 3:2:1 DEX:STR:END
My weird build. Doing this for testing to, and it's weapon of choice will most likely be a crossbow.

I'm going to hold some tests once all of my PvM builds hit 15 to see which is the most efficient, and that is the one I will continue.

I'll tell you now that your first build will level pretty fast cause that's what I used in CB. It did great damage and was able to take some hits. With a cleric around I was able to run up in front of the others to kill monsters in KQ. :P

In terms of PvP I don't know how much that END will help since a lot of people has been arguing that because we don't use shields the block rate part is wasted. But what do I know since I avoid PvP in all games... :rolleyes:

Anyway, good luck with the builds. :D

i go with 2:1 END:DEX, i love it cuz if the monster gets to me the damage isnt as often

and as for empowers, cooldown on multishot is good, then damage and the buff time on the poison and curse shots and the others dont make much difference

gonna go 2:1 spr:dex till i have 25 spr, then switch to 2:1 str:dex.

at first i was against a dex intensive build, but the more i play, the more i start to think it will work. I also feel my build will level kinda slow at first, but its a long run build, so i'll see the fruits of my labor in later levels.

I also think this might be a decent (although not great) PvP build.

in CB i've tryed full DEX and FULL str build.

Full dex is the wrost. Very Very low evasion. Mob land 4 hit each 5.

Full Str is good at low lv. But some1 said that at higher lv the bonus is not so good.

in OB i've put 25 points in SPR and now i dont know if go trought STR or DEX.
With OB it seems that evasion works better than CB. With no extra dex at lv 22 mobs miss me quite often. Maybe i'll go dex (with crossbow i cant kitte easly)
My regular damage sux a little, but crits are awesome. Specially when i crit on skill.
So maybe i'll go with strenght or full Spr.
No end. I don't like pvp and for pve i'm trying to kill mobs before the can touch me.

I dunno what enpower do.

That's what I'm doing... I went SPR until 25 then going full DEX to help with the lower accuracy of the Crossbow.

For empowerments, it's probably best to do Power for Aimed and Power Shots to make sure you kill before they reach you?

i am going somewhat the same route as loveless. i am putting in 25 spr, then doing 1:1 or 2:1 str:dex.

as far as empowering, i like to just empower the balls off aimed shot and spam it like a madman.

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